The purpose in life is(drum roll): To try to pass on your particular DNA and pay it forward.
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat 583 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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wizzstick
victims bear responsibility, not blame, if they build in areas where disasters are guaranteed to happen, like very close to railroad tracks, road sides, as the very poor are forced to do in some countries
How can the poor, who as you say are forced into building in these areas, also bear responsibility?
Where is your God in this oxymoronic statement?
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prologos
ws: "How can the poor, who as you say are forced into building in these areas, also bear responsibility
I am a realistic deist, and see in the plight of the poor in these countries, that live in dire conditions, daily, not just in the danger of traffic, storms, waves, a failure of society to care, to share. If all the money donated at the retail level truly would reach these devastated areas, impenetrable shelters with medical facilities, vitels . could have been constructed. I am not blaming the sufferers, but do not agree that the creator, giver of the possibilities should be blamed for the inability of individuals, families or societies to mitigate danger. bsw I have personally taken one such family squeezed between a railroad and the ocean to higher ground, into a wind- and earthquake -proof house with improved view too.
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Ruby456
re the Asian Tsunami - if coastal wetlands, sand dunes and forests had not been cleared these would have protected locals according to research. At banda aceh several mosques were the only buildings left standing - the reason they had solid foundations and were built from sturdy materials
http://www.thenational.ae/world/southeast-asia/how-indonesian-mosques-survived-the-tsunami
Mirza Irwansyah, an architectural expert from Banda Aceh’s state-run Syiah Kuala University, said that at least 27 mosques in the city survived the tsunami, often the only buildings in their neighbourhoods to do so. Photos of the structures standing amid the debris circulated on the internet after the disaster, with many calling their survival a miracle.
But they stood firm mostly because of their solid construction compared to surrounding buildings, said Mr Irwansyah. The Grand Mosque, he explained, was built by Europeans with a sturdy foundation.
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Ruby456
people in the area of the tsunami say that it is their faith that helped and helps them survive. they are planting wetlands and enjoying the fruits of different ways of engaging with nature. they know that another tsunami will come as they live on a fault line, but this time they will be better prepared as they also have numerous tsunami alert stations in the area
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Ruby456
I don't think it is a question of blaming one or the other - God or humans - but both and more are involved in the Asian tsunami
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cofty
I don't think it is a question of blaming one or the other - God or humans
Yes it is. God chose to murder a quarter of a million men, women and children
It was 100% god's fault.
people in the area of the tsunami say that it is their faith that helped and helps them survive
The opium of the people. Like an abused wife who begs for her husband's love.
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C: "Yes it is. God chose to murder a quarter of a million men, women and childrenIt was 100% god's fault.
As an atheist do you not bestow more power on the creator than he now seems to exercise? Do you see any redeeming value in these near - extinction events ? Could not these seeming setbacks be increments in life's journey to better adaptation? Catastrophes seen as a tool to shape the purpose of life? Untimely death more important to evolution than that of supercentenarians?
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cofty
Could not these seeming setbacks be increments in life's journey to better adaptation? - Prologos
Utter bollocks.
There was no selection pressure influencing which babies drowned.
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John_Mann
Ruby
People in the area of the tsunami say that it is their faith that helped and helps them survive.
Good point. The main view of the people directly involved in natural disasters share this view. This is the very conclusion from the majority of victims. This point must be considered.
Cofty
The opium of the people. Like an abused wife who begs for her husband's love.
This is victim blaming cofty.
You cannot blame people directly involved in the disaster if they find the faith in God explanation better than "shit happens". Rational minds search for meaning and these people chose not "shit happens", even under extreme circumstances.
You cannot have it both ways. Mystery and victim blaming are out of your deck of cards.
BTW, "shit happens" to me is an euphemism for secular mystery. So IMHO you can't even use the "shit happens" either.
Instead you should scientifically demonstrate for us why our minds perceiving evil at all (natural and man-made) is an evolutionary advantage.
What was exactly the evolutionary pressure that made us the only specie to perceive evil?