the watchtower is starting to crumble

by pepperheart 114 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • punkofnice

    LV101 - Our father what art in 'eaven. Harold be thy name. Harry.

  • slimboyfat

    Yes I don't think it will survive more than a few years.

  • _Morpheus

    Oh boy so now we are down to a few years... it was 10 or 20 years just a few months ago, slim.

    slim, im not trying to pick on you or be hard on you, but its easy to get caught up in one piece of news or one event and lose the big picture. You go back and forth between the org being gone today or the org hanging around for decades and slowly declining. Its fine, of course, to modify your views or change your mind, but when you blow with the wind its hard to take it seriously.

    Reports of the orgs demise are greatly exaggerated, to borrow a turn of phrase. The org is changing, not dying. The presentation this month is NEW, although its telling that they didnt put a jw org program together. In the old days they never dropped one program for another. I think this is a case of realizing most jw’s wouldnt invest the time to watch both.

  • slimboyfat

    I've been watching events closely. I am acquainted with the history. In addition I have been comparing and contrasting JWs with other churches: Mormons, SDAs, Christadelphians, Unitarians, Merhodists, Christian Scientists and others. This is my considered judgement: Watchtower is in serious trouble and liable to collapse imminently.

  • _Morpheus

    Lol yes slim, i love reading your “slimboy joins...” series, especially because of your lense as a (maybe sometimes former) jw and comparing the worship and membership from a place i can relate too.

    That said, dosent the long lasting (comparatively) power of lessor churches like the Unitarians show you that the org can hang around for a long long time? The org wields absolute power over millions as opposed to so many of the churches you visited who wield zero power but still limp along.

    A few years from now we will all still be on this forum, talking about the latest wt insanity and wondering how people can still buy it. You will still vasilate and try to downplay this discussion but the org isnt going anywhere.

  • alanv

    It makes no sense saying they have run out of things to say. They have produced countless numbers of books and magazines, often saying the same things for 140 years. They can just go over the same old ground if they need to.

  • slimboyfat

    It shows me that JWs lack precisely the qualities that have allowed Christadelphians, Unitarians and others to cling on, and the SDAs to continue growing. They much more closely resemble the Worldwise Church of God which suffered sudden collapse and subsequent disintegration.

  • jp1692

    SBF: Worldwise Church of God

    Methinks you meant the Worldwide Church of God (now known as Grace Communion International).

  • _Morpheus

    Im curiouse why you

    1) see similarities between our former org and the gci

    and 2) were you aware that gci is still around, as in not collapsed and gone away, as you say the jw org will be in 2 years?

  • ttdtt

    Slimboy - I wish it were so, but you are dreaming.

    The Org will outlive all of us.

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