Did the flood happen?

by BlackWolf 61 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vidiot

    redvip2000 - "If he had to make that many miracles to make it work, then why not just make one miracle and kill the humans that were wicked?"

    'Cause Yahweh's all about the drama. :smirk:

  • LoveUniHateExams

    Did the flood happen? - a global flood didn't happen 4,000 years ago.

    I'm pretty sure of it.

  • berrygerry

    Watch this (and part 2) at family worship.


  • eyeuse2badub

    Didn't the flood take place at the same time that the moon became swiss cheese? That's what I heard!

    just saying!

  • slimboyfat

    Leolaia argued that to accept the flood you need to reject almost every branch of science.


  • wizzstick

    If anything, the fall of the alleged upper water would have generated a lot of heat. think re-entry

    Er - it depends how this water was 'miraculously' held up there. Plus the waters covered the surface of the earth for best part of a year. How long would they have held their 're-entry heat'?

    And what about the waters that came from below? How much of the water covering the mountains came from the water canopy and how much came from under the earth?

    Genesis 7:11 In the 600th year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the 17th day of the month, on that day all the springs of the vast watery deep burst open and the floodgates of the heavens were opened

    (As I type this I wonder how I ever managed to stop thinking for so long.)

  • OrphanCrow

    The book that Russell based his flood theory (and his wacky creation ideas) was written by Isaac Vail. The book was published in 1912. Isaac Vail was a "catastrophist"

    For your reading pleasure (downloads as a pdf):

    Waters Above the Firmament: The Earth's Annular System

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_geology#Vapor.2Fwater_canopy :

    Isaac Vail (1840–1912), a Quaker schoolteacher, in his 1912 work The Earth's Annular System, extrapolated from the nebular hypothesis what he called the annular system of earth history, with the earth being originally surrounded by rings resembling those of Saturn, or "canopies" of water vapor. Vail hypothesised that, one by one, these canopies collapsed on the Earth, resulting in fossils being buried in a "succession of stupendous cataclysms, separated by unknown periods of time". The Genesis flood was thought to have been caused by "the last remnant" of this vapor. Although this final flood was geologically significant, it was not held to account for as much of the fossil record as George McCready Price had asserted.[101] Vail's ideas about geology appeared in Charles Taze Russell's The Photo-Drama of Creation and subsequently in Joseph Franklin Rutherford's Creation of 1927 and later publications.They interpreted the creative days of Genesis as six periods each lasting 7,000 years, with Adam and Eve at the start of the most recent 6,000 years, so that the Earth was around 48,000 years old.[101][102] Jehovah's Witnesses maintain this belief, but their literature is now less specific about the purported length of each creative 'day'.[103] The Seventh-day Adventist physicist Robert W. Woods also proposed a vapor canopy,[104] before The Genesis Flood gave it prominent and repeated mention in 1961.[105]

  • jws

    According to the generally accepted biblical chronology, the flood happened about 4500 years ago.

    We have Egyptian culture all throughout that time. We have pyramids from earlier than the time of the flood and after. Which means, we had Egyptians building pyramids. And many people today don't even know how ancients even built these structures.

    But supposedly a flood is supposed to come and cover the whole earth - even the Egyptians, destroying the whole culture. Yet now we are supposed to believe that the descendants of Noah - at a time when they would be hard pressed to repopulate the species - move in mass numbers to Egypt and decide to adopt the culture and gods of the previous culture that was there. They even somehow figure out how to make pyramids and start building them again.

    And they also start to use the hieroglyphic language as well. Which we couldn't even decipher until we found the Rosetta Stone.

    Oh, you can use the hundreds and hundreds of other miracles that would have had to happen and ascribe them to god. But what about this? Would god have formed Egyptian culture a second time with it's false gods?

    I was also thinking recently about the sea-creatures that live in the relatively shallow portions of the ocean. Where there is plant life and other food. What happens when sea level raises by 19,000 feet? There is no sandy bottom of seaweed. It's thousands of feet down now.

  • Giordano

    The Golden Age which became the Awake magazine.

    (the) 'Flood may have been caused by all of the other planets being on one side of the earth simultaneously. God may have inserted the “youngest” planet Neptune on the other side to act as a gravitational corrective to make sure it cannot happen again!’ Golden-Age Jun 16 1926 pg 583

    All together....... a face slap.

  • 2+2=5

    Ahhh...the old Golden-Age magazine, it's full of those gems.

    It's too bad today's JWs don't read those, most of it is profound bullshit.

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