Removing Mr. Trump from office.....

by mikeflood 93 Replies latest social current

  • Hecce
    Hecce

    The 25th Amendment was adopted after Nixon.

    Wrong

    The 25th Amendment, proposed by Congress and ratified by the states in the aftermath of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, provides the procedures for replacing the president or vice president in the event of death, removal, resignation, or incapacitation.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv

  • Hecce
    Hecce

    Jamal Khashoggi was not a US citizen. What do you think should have occurred? A war perhaps?

    Agree with this 1000%

    Politics is a dirty business, specially in that part of the world; not worth to get involved in that cesspool of intrigue and mayhem.

    Rather that use the law enforcement efforts of the US in that case, I will like to see a true an serious investigation into the death of a DNC official named Seth Rich; gunned down in Washington DC and never solved.

  • Simon
    Simon
    My other question for those who support Trump: What about the American Citizen who was killed by the Prince of Saudi Arabia? I understand he was a journalist, but still - he was an American. I cannot remember a time when such a public event was ignored by the White House.

    He was a pal of Osama Bin Laden. Why should we give a flying fuck what happened to him? He wanted to drag us into an internal religious conflict that would kill hundreds of thousands, possibly millions. Idiots like you fall for the crap because you can't see as far ahead as the nose on your face.

    Calling him a journalist is a lie - he was there to spread his propaganda. He got chopped up. Too bad, so sad. Take 2 pills and call me in the morning. One less Islamist in the world = a slightly better world.

  • Spoletta
    Spoletta

    Simon,

    People always fail to point out that Kashoggi was a pal to Bin Laden when the US was a pal to Bin Ladin, when the Russians were in Afghanistan. How convenient

    Of course, you also forget to mention that his children are US citizens. But that doesn't matter because they're ethnically Saudi, right? Not real Americans. Only whites are truly civilized.

  • Simon
    Simon

    What nationality his children are has no bearing on him and what he was. Neither does his color but his religious and political loyalty does and it wasn't to the US.

    The US does better when it doesn't allow itself to get played and doesn't meddle with conflicts that it shouldn't waste it's time with. The sectarian war inside Islam should be left to them. There is no good side to support and no benefit to getting involved.

    Bin Laden was never a friend or an ally, he was pretending to be so he could use the US to fight his war, exactly what we shouldn't do. That's why we should yawn when people like whats-his-name-I-can't-be-bother-to-remember-it dies trying to cause more war.

    BTW: Your attempt at suggesting racism is lame. You know that shit doesn't fly anymore right? No one cares, it's been overplayed ... by people like you.

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    I`ll go out on a limb here,

    ,What is wrong with a system that he/she who gets the most votes by the American people is elected to the Presidency of the Unite States Of America .?

    A candidate who gets the most votes by the voting public still gets to be defeated for the presidency ?

    How absurd is that ?

    The majority of people vote for a candidate to be president and you have a system that negates the will of the people ? and you call that democracy ?

    I love you people ,

    but you do have some screwball ideas.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    The 25th Amendment was adopted after Nixon. Gerald Ford had to replace Spiro Agnew as VP,

    Actually, that was the first time the 25th Amendment was used.

    It was first proposed in 1963 because of Kennedy's assassination. VP Lyndon Johnson was in the same motorcade and there were rumors that Johnson had also been killed. If Kennedy and Johnson had both died (or been injured so as to be unable to serve) the Speaker of the House and Senate Pro Tempore (the next two individuals who would move up to the office of President) were 71 and 86 years old and in poor health, doubtful that either could really successfully serve as President. It failed that time, but was later proposed again in 1965 and ratified in 1967. (It was first used when Gerald Ford took office in 1974.)

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    since you're such a lover of Drumpf, I'm surprised you didn't know that I'm using the spelling of his name from generations back when his great grandfather changed the spelling of it and you have the nerve to say I'm showing ignorance - hey ShirleyW, do you call Muhammad Ali 'Cassius Clay'?

  • Simon
    Simon
    A candidate who gets the most votes by the voting public still gets to be defeated for the presidency?
    How absurd is that?

    Not really. It's an electoral collage - a system in use in many places and is designed to prevent the large population centres controlling everything and not giving the less dense populations any chance of a voice.

    Again, knowing what the system is, if someone goes out to win the "popular vote" and not the tactical votes of states needed to win, isn't that person a fool?

    The claims of "but ... but ... she won ..." are just cries of desperation by those unwilling to accept the results of the election. The use of government agencies by a sitting president wanting to install a chosen successor instead of respecting the democratic result is the actions of a wannabe dictator.

    There's also plenty of evidence that she may not have really won the popular vote at all so the point is questionable at worse and irrelevant at best.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    The Electoral College was designed so the large populous States would not be able to "control" everything.

    If it was a matter of strictly "popular vote", there would never be a presidential candidate go to Iowa or New Hampshire (which are the first 2 primaries presently). Only California, New York, Texas, Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Ohio would matter. F*ck Wyoming, Rhode Island, etc.

    The Congress is "balanced" in the same way. The Senate has two senators from each State regardless of population, but the House of Representatives has members from each State based on population. California has 53 Representatives as it is the most populous. Alaska, Delaware, Wyoming each only have 1 Representative (but still 2 Senators).

    Thus any law must pass BOTH houses of Congress. So in the Senate all States have equal representation. In the House, each States is represented by population. The Senate has always been the more powerful of the two bodies.

    The Electoral Collage is based on the number of Senators + Representatives. Each State has the same number of vote on the "Collage" as they have Senators + Representatives. (California 55, Alaska 3, etc). In most States the candidate who wins the popular vote receives ALL of the EC votes. So winning 51% of California voters gets you all 55 EC votes. (Only Maine and Nebraska prorate EC votes.) California is overwhelmingly Democratic (as is New York) and those votes always go to the Democrat. Hillary won California by 61% of the popular vote in 2016). Thus, any GOP candidate has to win overwhelmingly in the rest of the States.

    Here's a map of RED (GOP) vs BLUE (Dems) States for 2016

    Image result for blue vs red States 2016

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