Well, one thing is for sure, none of the participants in this argument are working solely on principle, as evidenced by our silence when poor Mr. Vallejo’s copyrights where being so viciously infringed on this very db.
Rf, you said,
Stupider, even though granted, is a word, just sounds... well...STUPID.
Why didn’t you just say so, lol. You said, “ Btw, there's no such word as "stupider". Better go look it up in your english manual.”. I can’t think of a more stupid way to express the idea that something “sounds stupid”.
You also said:
You DON'T know what you're talking about.
Hehe, uhmm, yeah, I do. Unlike some people involved in this discussion, I don’t take a position of authority on things that I don’t have good knowledge of. That’s why I don’t take a position of authority very often, liq. I think it is safe to wager that I have more understanding of this subject than anyone else on this board, right up to and including DaveM.
I don't agree. Criticism in this sense is meant as "Critiqueing the work itself" and that is not what the work was being used for.
Ok, I’ll bite; how would you characterize the way Alan used this picture?
Granted, very few judges, if any, would grant damages to Suzy for Alan using her picture in a discussion forum. It all comes down to common sense. But the picture itself, IS PROTECTED by the Copyright law. And that's what Suzy told Alan, and Suzy was right. Now whether she could get a court of law to make it stick IN THIS INSTANCE OF USE, that's another story altogether.
So which is it? If a judge would NOT “protect” it, is it protected from this usage? Saying, “…the picture itself, IS PROTECTED by the Copyright law”, is not really saying…..well, anything really. ALL images are copyrighted at the time of their creation. The question comes down to this particular usage, is it “fair use”? The fair use doctrine exist for situations like this. Otherwise, yeah, it would be very cut and dried, ie., the copyright holder says no, so, no you can’t use the picture for anything. The copyright holder in this case seems to be one Mike Bann. It would be interesting to know if he has a contract with Mrs. Mayhem that goes beyond a simple verbal, “sure, you can put my pics up on your website”.
You're just basically making fun of Suzy's work here. Low blow, Six. I didn't think her work itself was bad, and she DOES have a copyright on it. I think personally that it should be respected, to a certain extent.
Well…..maybe, a bit. (although it seems to just be Suzie’s face, not her work) But hey, we are in an argument aren’t we? Gotta get a jab in here or there, betwixt all the facts. [J] Actually, I kinda like that pic. It’s pretty, it’s graphic, it has a kind of neat blanco obscuro thing going. Although, I must say that if you’re going to crop it that much, why not go ahead and crop so that it no longer begs the “why is she shocked by her armpit” question that Alan parodied.
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DC blathered, “you are not even wrong!!! ” And then went downhill from there.
remember when you and your clan thought that Suzi and I where the same person? you were wrong, see the pics we have posted if you need further evidence
Remind me who my clan is again, bluster boy*? And then remind them to send in their clan dues. They are getting WAY behind. I thought you might be the same person, since you posted minutes apart, agreeing with, and patting each other on the back, with a very similar lack of substance. As if the person with the loudest insulting comments wins the argument. And then, if TWO people make similar loud, insulting comments, on the same side of the argument, anyone should see that they win the argument, right? Sure bluster boy, whatever.
Case in point:
about as long as it takes to surgically remove a hymen,..
Did you forget that I supported my arguments with facts in that discussion, Bluster Boy? Still hurting that you didn’t know everything (or even very much) about hymens? I really have to recommend that you let it go. This kind of obsession could lead to some very antisocial behavior on your part, if you feel you have to keep on…uhm…
exploring this issue.
you are very wrong, your links will show you that
Curiously, you didn’t post anything from those links to support your statement. I wonder why?
besides fair use was never issued
Now that’s a seemingly stupid statement in this particular discussion. ‘Splain, lucy.
You further garbled,
Comprehension would avoid so much
it is synonymous to common sense only problem is that common sense is not common. . . .
On it’s own, the above is mostly incomprehensible, but since I know your sentiments, I think I understand. The funny thing to me is, that comprehension is where I excel, and common sense is what you
seem to lack. I feel sure that you
test well.
Riz, you ign…. Heeehheee.
She's a great gal- and very intelligent.
I’m sure she is, latent hostility aside
. But this is a discussion board, and if someones sole purpose is to stroke their boyfriend, and vice versa, they can do that at home. As to, “She was simply sharing an idea she had. This idea opened the floodgates of criticism.” Go take a look at the way that “idea” was introduced to the board. I think you will agree that the presentation invited criticism, especially since it was brought in during an argument in the first place, if memory serves me well.
I didn't want the crap flung in my direction that comes with defending someone with a different viewpoint that happens all too often here. I'm sorry, Suzi.
IMO, better to just defend or argue ideas, and let people handle themselves, for the most part. I think that is what got the brunt of criticism, her idea. I’ll agree there have been some noticeable exceptions to this on the board.
Alan,
More generally, a smart person is aware of what he or she does not know. The ignorant are often too ignorant to understand how much they don't know. But they sometimes want to impress others with gobble-de-gook.
Well put.
I will now put on a rain coat for the bluster spiddle I expect will be coming my way as soon as I hit send.
I'ma be a freakin' Papist in a John Paul mask-- The Real Slim Sixy, copyright 2001
