In my opinion having a conclusion, is not making a claim, having a belief is not making a claim. I have expressed multiple times that the evidence is soley for me not proof to anyone else. But I can understand why you can't grasp any of what I am saying, you need concrete facts to satisfy your curiosity and you get irritated when you don't have any concrete proof.
What do you consider making a claim if it's not "I think X because of reasons Y and Z"? You just made three incorrect claims about me, one of what I need, one of what I understand and one my emotional state, all ignorant of actual information.
I on the other hand have the ability to make higher order abstractions and that's part of my thinking process. To understand this you have to think out of the box Viv.
Abstract thinking is the ability to understand genral concepts from specific examples. You are not unique in that, but making claims that things are connected in an abtract way does require specific examples and supporting data. What is that? Simply claiming I don't understand how to think like you is not showing how you moved from the specific to the abstract.
Hydrogen bonds should not be possible in nature, but they are there, hydrogen and oxygen do not bond like this in organic molecules.
Why, specifically, should hydrogen bonds (which technically is neither a covalent nor an ionic bond but rather an electrostatic dipole-dipole interaction) not be possible in nature?
I am satisfied this process is guided by God, other chemical analysts may not be.
Why? How do you get from "hydrogen bond" to "God did it"?
So in conclusion science in the case of hydrogen bonds proves nothing as reagrds to the existence of God
You did claim that it did to you when you wrote "When I look at the hydrogen bonding in water, clouds and rain, the desalination process I see how God makes water". I am interested in how that is evidence for something that, so far, can't be defined in terms of what it is comprised of, detected, described in specific terms or proven to exist. What is the connective logic and specific evidence that gets you there?