Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

by The Quiet One 110 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    SFPW "I didn't use the word, Luckily, as True Christians don't attribute anything to luck, which is why I used the word fortunately."

    The word fortunately comes from the root word, fortune.

    According to the Webster's dictionary, the definition of fortune is prosperity attained partly through luck. Another definition is destiny , fate <can tell your fortune> ; also : a prediction of fortune. That is where the word fortune tellers comes from.

    So now you are getting mixed in with divination, spiritism, which the bible says those who practice such things won't inherit the kingdom.

    I suggest you call your elders to confess your involvement with divination so they can setup a judicial committee to make sure if you've stopped and are repentant enough.

  • Iown Mylife
    Iown Mylife

    marked, marked, MARKED!!!

  • Frazzled UBM
    Frazzled UBM

    SFBW - thanks for your semantic response, which as EOM points out is nothing more than semantics, as fortunately and luckily effectively mean the same thing but I suspect you knew that any way and were having a bit of fun by drawing a spurious distinction.

    You also know how important loaded language is to Witnesses and how this is an example of high control manipulation and so you are playing with this.

    I love your question about UBM being UnBaptized Male - nice segway to encouraging me to become baptized when you know UBM stands for Unbelieving Mate. You really are having a lot of fun winding people up and taking the p*ss. I remain of the view that your answers are too ridiculous to be genuine. I am interested to see to what ridiculous extreme you will push your answers to provoke an outraged response. Enjoy!

  • The Quiet One
    The Quiet One

    The troll can't be bothered thinking of answers to all of the points that were raised, that would take too much effort I suppose..
    For the people who still haven't realised what he is doing, take a look at the words he has capitalised..
    'Pure Language', 'True Christian' (twice), 'Undeserved Kindness'..
    If you still believe that he is genuine, you are likely either the hopelessly trusting sort, or you have recently undergone a lobotomy. For the rest of you, have fun..

  • Stand for Pure Worship
    Stand for Pure Worship

    Frazzled, honestly I never would have known that UBM would have stood for Unbelieving Mate. I guess I need to take a crash course on ex-JW vernacular. When I think Unbelieving Mate, I simply think Unbelieving Mate, not UBM. UBM conjures to mind a television network some reason when outside of the theocratic context. My apologies. Hopefully you won't hold it against me like, Oubliette. Oh well, perhaps your Christian wife may win you over without a word.- 1 Pet 3"1

    Now as far as answering some of the questions in this thread, I'm going to work backwards and some questions I'm simply not going to respond to because the answers are beyond your level of understanding.-Heb 5:12-14

    Tenyearsafter(great band by the way), your question about the Slave illustration being literal, I'll address first and I'll include some thoughts about so called false predictions. When I thought of your question, two things came to mind. Pink Floyd's song, Time, and 1 Cor 14:33 which you may recall is the letter in which Paul states that "God is not a God of disorder." You see, throughout the Scriptures, you find that everything God does, is done according to a schedule. It's never irrational or spontaneous. When our human parents rebelled in Eden, God set into motion a course of events that would both answer the questions raised during that moment, and result in fulfilling His will. Again, the events set in motion would take time to run their course. You'll also notice that the events were spoken of in an illustrative or figurative nature, but the characters involved depicted real players.

    That said, Jesus being the perfect student of his heavenly Father, would relay matters the same to his disciples. If you recall, when his disciples asked him, "when will these things be?", Jesus reply wasn't exactly what they were anticipating. Being that Jesus' words were two-fold, as we now understand today which the disciples back then did not, we have a better understanding that the fulfillment of the words in Matthew 24 would have a greater fulfillment with our generation which is when the lives of the annointed would overlap with key events that Christ spoke of. Let it be known that I'm not one of the annointed despite referring to this generation as being our's. Jesus made mention of multiple events that would take place leading up to the time of the end. He mentioned warfare, famine, earthquakes, but these things would simply be a beginning. It goes without saying that the level of earthquakes, famine, pestilence, and warfare have been unprecedented within the last 100 years. But again, these events serve only as a prelude.

    The key thing to be concerned about, and again this goes back to my mentioning of time in the beginning of this post, Jesus stated nobody knows the day or hour when this will come. Just like nobody knew when their hair would start thinning. It happened as if almost overnight. What lets us know this parable was to be taken in the literal sense was that it was included within Jesus' words involving the last days. Despite being in an illustrative form, it was a response to a question about the times of the end. Again, his use of illustrations was not uncommon as he typically teached with illustrations, and remember that Jehovah's prophecy right after the Edenic rebellion was spoken in an illustrative manner. Going back to JEsus, he asked the rhetorical question about who would be feeding his sheep during the time leading up to these tumultuous events? Evidently it has to be the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. They provide us with Bible based literature(spiritual food) that not only encourages us, but assists us in making decisions that glorify Jehovah. When Jesus asked Peter whether or not he loved him, Jesus emphasized that to truly demonstrate his love, he would need to feed Jesus sheep. The hedonistic Catholics like to think that they're the heir apparent of Peter, which we all know is hogwash. However, what is not ridiculous, is that the Governing Body is the only group when in unison are taking Jesus' questions towards PEter to heart. They're truly concerned with the spiritual welfare of his sheep and as a result have answered with a definitive, yes they love Jesus.

    Now as far as faulty predictions, it's true that the WT has been a bit overzealous in their verbiage related to anticipation of the end times. For the record, they've never made any actual and by actual I mean specific predictions about when the end would come. No, but they have emphasized possibilities of when it might come, and I admit were at times a bit heavy on their emphasis. I know this gives ammunition to the self-victims of 1975, but really the only thing the WT has been guilty of was following JEsus words at Matt 24:42. You can't fault them for that.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Interesting choice of name. Have you ever done an independent bible study on worship as used in the bible?

  • Theredeemer
    Theredeemer

    "the answers are beyond your level of understanding"= I dont know what the hell im talking about so neither will you.

  • Theredeemer
    Theredeemer

    I have a question...Are you standing when you type because, if you are not, then you are a liar too?

  • Theredeemer
    Theredeemer

    And as to the "prophecy" about the snake, I think the writer was literally talking about what happens when you accidently step on a f%$king snake!If you actually believe what is written in Genesis, you have bigger problems. But that is a whole other discussion :)

  • Stand for Pure Worship
    Stand for Pure Worship

    Interesting choice of name. Have you ever done an independent bible study on worship as used in the bible?

    What do you mean by independent?

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