Doesn't sound terribly sinister. If anything someone should have told the kid not to go off by himself, or to at least let someone know which direction he was heading. Fairly common rule among those who go to rugged places to camp. Maybe someone who knows what kind of terrain is around where it happened, could give a clue as to what he could have expected. People get killed all the time going off by themselves in places they aren't prepared for.
Kinky details to JW boys death
by Kep 63 Replies latest jw friends
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simplesally
Yep! Good spot!
Rami Oved is featured in the 1994 Awake, September 8th article, "Trained to Kill, Now I Offer Life."
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anewperson
A dead or murdered boy doesn't sound "sinister?" Two JW elders being at a campout during which pictures are taken of boys peeing doesn't sound "sinster?" Get off, chum. You WT types will say most anything but that's to be expected of those covering up child rape.
Let's remember to daily email a polite request to [email protected] to air the coverup documentary as fast as they can to cut short the agony of those now being raped and forestall the raping of other kids.
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SixofNine
I agree with Shimmer's post. Assuming that this is just harmless goofing around, it is easy to see how it looks nefarious to the outside investigators.
Most people would have given an accurate description of the evenings events, including the pranks.
These JW's however (including what should be a full grown adult - the elder) are so afraid of the shadow of the congregation, that they felt the need to hide their normal behaviour.
Unless more news comes out, I dont' see anything kinky about it at all. It is however, pathetic.
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SixofNine
anewperson, please tell me you are locked up somewhere?
Even if this turns out to be foul play, please, please, please! assure me that you are not walking the streets?
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amccullough
It doesn't sound all that wild to me. I guess I don't see the connection between these pranks and this boy's death. The newspaper article doesn't make one (as is usual since most newspaper articles will through in anything slightly related that might help sensationalize things.)
My friends and Iwere walking home from a local bar the other night, one stops to take a piss in the bushes, another had a camera so, of course, we took incriminating photos as a joke so we could put them on his fridge right before he invites people over. Kinky? I don't think so. Funny? Maybe just to us.
And as far as camping trips, I've heard of worse than putting women's underwear in someone's bag and then wearing it as a joke. I think trying to link that to this boy's death is a stretch, unless there is further corroborating evidence not included in the article. -
Valis
anew, I assume you are posting in my general direction. The NZ police ruled that the death was of natural causes...i.e he drowned, he fell, etc..Indeed he was in fact found in a lake. There is nothing to suggest foul play, rape, or murder.
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William Penwell
I recall a group of JW men that would go on hunting trips together. Some of the "good dubs" were MS and elders in their congregations. The stories I heard, that all it was an excuse to get away from their wives and get pissed up. Just a drunken weekend and playing immature pranks on each other, i.e. like ripping off other guys underware. They would get so drunk and go out with guns and driving 4 wheel ultra-terrain vehicles. As a matter of fact one of them went out drunk one day and ended up rolling it over and killing himself.
Makes one wonder these guys were supposedly shepherds to the flock yet in most peoples opinions all alcoholics. Also the way they used to glorify their hunting stories, is that they loved the blood of the sport. Then next Saturday morning be banging on doors and telling others how to run their lives. I never had the time of day for these hypocrites.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
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detective
I'm not actually suggesting that anything even remotely inappropriate resulted from the pranks but I would like to point out that if you substitute the title elder with priest, more than a few eyebrows would be raised.
Just another point of view.
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blondie
What if it had been 2 priests camping out with teenage boys and they had taken pictures of them peeing? What if photos had been taken of those boys in women's underwear? What if those photos had been e-mailed to some fellow priests who like to see pictures of teenage boys peeing and in women's underwear?
Am I wrong, but shouldn't a bell be going off? After all I have read here about the concern about children being sexually abused, isn't this an example of that?
Just my opinion. Those pictures could be considered child pornography if the children were underage
(I guess I share your view, detective. Took awhile to word my response didn't see yours until after)