by mindnumbed 121 Replies latest watchtower bible
GB: Apostates are not sincere in their expressions. Their aim is to manipulate your minds and undermine your faith.
Oubliette: The Governing Body members are not sincere in their expressions. Their aim is to manipulate your minds and undermine your faith in yourself and your own reasoning and thinking ablility.
This is a prime example of "shadow projections" in other words all the evil motives that they project(imagine) upon apostates is their own evil that they fail to acknowledge and therefore find a convenient hook to hang their projections on, which happens to be those that leave and speak about the the deception of the Governing Body.
http://www2.cnr.edu/home/bmcmanus/shadow.html
SHADOW: the image Jung used to describe those qualities in ourselves that we repress because they are unacceptable to our ego ideal. Jung once called the Shadow “the thing a person has no wish to be”; it is the opposite of the conscious personality (see Wehr 59). The shadow personifies the contents of one's personal unconscious but also has a strong archetypal component
Individual: we usually project shadow qualities on to others (especially peer figures) of the same sex, who may or may not “really” have the qualities we are rejecting. The mark of shadow projection is compulsiveness and intolerance, because we are really rejecting qualities that we have but can't acknowledge as our own (see Wehr 60).
Collective: the “in” group frequently projects its collective shadow qualities on to the “out” group: e.g. capitalists vs. communists and vice versa, Jews vs. Arabs, etc. (see Wehr 61-62).
SHADOW INTEGRATION: we can avoid shadow possession and withdraw shadow projection by recognizing that these qualities are really part of ourselves and by attempting to channel their negative aspects in positive directions. In narratives, this is often symbolized by acknowledging one's kinship/friendship/close bond with the personified shadow and sometimes working together with it for a comon goal.
Worked out the full transcript here:
Beware of Human Apostates
You cannot be partaking at the table of Jehovah and the table of demons. These inspired words of the apostle Paul found at 1 Corinthians 10:21 show that two figurative tables are set before us. For the last day-and-a-half, you have been partaking at the table of Truth of Jehovah and haven’t you found it to be good? [clapping]. Jehovah uses human representatives, the faithful and appointed elders to dispense truths for those eating at his table. The apostate Satan disseminates falsehoods in a similar way. He mimics Jehovah by using human representatives. Who are they? If Satan and his demons are chefs in his evil kitchen then human apostates are his helpers. Wicked humans imitate the original apostate Satan. Like Satan, human apostates are unruly men who cook up wicked reasoning and season their brew with poisonous lies that deceive minds. Human apostates have sat at the table of Jehovah. At Jehovah’s table they enjoyed a table of well-oiled dishes, a banquet of wine kept on the grapes; they were domestics, part of the household of faith and partook of Bible truth, prepared and dispensed by the faithful steward, the Governing Body. But the pushed away from the table of Jehovah. Their preference is to partake of falsehoods at the table of demons. This action of pushing themselves away from the table of Jehovah is described for us at 1 John 2: 19 (They went out of us, for they were not of our sort…).
Apostates do not drift away from the truth. They deliberately decide to go out from among God’s people because they are not our sort. Human apostates are part of the seed of the serpent spoken of in Genesis 3:15. If we wish to please Jehovah we cannot sit as his table and at the same time be nibbling at the table of demons, eating from the hands of Satan’s helpers, human apostates. So, for the next few minutes we are going to discuss how to identify human apostates and what you must do to protect yourself from the poison of apostasy. Let’s first discuss how to identify human apostates. Apostasy often starts with prideful rejection of counsel and escalates into bitterness and jealousy - James 3:14. Because apostates allow bitterness to take root in their heart, they become defiant of and false to the truth. How does this defiance to the truth manifest itself. The actions of apostates bear three characteristics. These characteristics help us identify human apostates. The first identifying mark of human apostates is commented on at Luke 6: 46 (Why call me Lord, but not do the things I say). Apostates profess to be followers of Jesus, but are not obedient to his commands. A recent example of when this happened was in the mid-70’s when some prominent elders, some who even served at Bethel felt it was below their dignity to witness from house to house, proclaiming the message as commanded by Jesus. They urged others to take it easy because the humble work of witnessing from house to house work was not necessary or unscriptural. The Governing Body expelled the unrepentant apostates from the organization. The faithful slave did not allow the efforts of these apostates to distract it from the primary work of Jehovah’s witnesses, proclaiming God’s word of truth. So the first characteristic we can use to identify human apostates is that they reject God’s service. Many bock at Jesus’ command to go and make disciples. A second characteristic that identifies human apostates is commented on at Acts 20:30 (men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples for themselves). What is it that apostates want? Most are not content to simply leave the faith they once viewed as true. They want to take others with them. Rather than going out and making their own disciples, many apostates seek to draw away Christ’s disciples after themselves. Like a kidnapper who carries an unsuspecting victim away from his family, apostates prey upon trusting members of the congregation, seeking to carry them away from the flock. In addition they seek to cause divisions in the congregation - 2 Peter 2:1 (false teachers who quietly bring in destructive sects). To accomplish their goal of drawing away disciples after themselves or dividing the congregation, apostates may use smooth talk on the internet, on television or through letters to loyal witnesses of Jehovah. So a second characteristic that identifies human apostates is that they seek to draw away Christ’s disciples after themselves and cause divisions. A third characteristic manifested by human apostates is they claim to serve Jehovah, yet they reject his representatives - 3 John 9-10 (does not receive anything from us with respect, using wicked words).
Apostates claim to serve God, but reject his representatives. They lie to authorities. Through the media they seek to discredit Jehovah’s people and incite bans on our work. For instance, in one country a news report instigated by apostates falsely stated that Jehovah’s witnesses supported Hitler’s regime during world war two. In other countries apostate used the media to accuse Jehovah’s witnesses of refusing to give medical treatment to their children and of deliberately condoning serious sins committed by fellow believers. So a third characteristic that identifies human apostates is that they reject and try to discredit Jehovah’s representatives here on earth.
Now that we know how to identify human apostates, what must we do to protect ourselves from the poison of apostasy? Romans 16:17 (keep your eye on those causing stumble and avoid them).
Suppose a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who was infected with a contagious deadly disease. Would you reason that limited contact is okay? Similarly human apostate as mentally diseased and they try to infect others with their disloyal teachings. Jehovah, the great physician tells us to avoid contact with them. What is involved in avoiding apostates? 2 John 10-11 (never receive him into your home or say a greeting, not to become sharers in their wickedness). Avoiding apostates means we will not allow them in our homes, reading their literature, watching TV programs that feature them, examining their websites or adding our comments to their blogs. Why do we take such a firm stand? We do not want to become sharers in their wicked works. We love the God of Truth. We are not interested in twisted teachings that contradict God’s word of truth. We love Jehovah’s organization, the organization that taught us thrilling truths. Truths about Jehovah’s name and its meaning. God’s purpose for the earth. The condition of the dead and the hope of the resurrection. Can you recall how you felt when you first learned these and other precious truths. Why then allow yourself to be sour? Poisoned by anyone who would belittle the organization through which you learned these truths. Does avoiding apostates imply that our faith is not strong enough to discern truth from falsehood? That our faith is not strong enough to discuss different views? Not at all. In our ministry we discuss with those who have different views. Apostates differ from those we meet in our ministry. Apostates are not sincere in their expressions. Their aim is to manipulate your mind and undermine your faith – Psalm 12:2 (untruth they keep speaking). With good reason the Bible then tells us to avoid apostates, just as we would avoid a person who was infected with a deadly contagious disease – 1 John 2:18-19 (many Anti-Christ’s that went out from us).
Because they oppose the truth, apostates are part of the Anti-Christ. They are liars and deceivers, out to destroy your relationship with Jehovah God and his son Christ Jesus. Therefore we want to avoid them for they are not of our sort. Deuteronomy 32:46-47 (apply you hearts to all the words I am speaking and warning; it means your life).
Heeding his inspired warnings means our very life. How thankful we are for divine warnings against apostasy. May we show our appreciation by walking in God’s word of Truth. May we stay busy in the work Jesus assigned us to do; Sharing God’s word of Truth with others. By doing so, you will forever enjoy Jehovah’s divine seal of approval.
So if I have to go for one day, Saturday (the Apostate day) would be the one? I will recheck the schedule, but from what I recall, Saturday was 'apostate day'. Perhaps that could become another 'evil day like 'Mother's Day'...
Many thanks for that.
George
Thanks DesignerS,
(((((Apostates claim to serve God, but reject his representatives. They lie to authorities. Through the media they seek to discredit Jehovah’s people and incite bans on our work. For instance, in one country a news report instigated by apostates falsely stated that Jehovah’s witnesses supported Hitler’s regime during world war two. In other countries apostate used the media to accuse Jehovah’s witnesses of refusing to give medical treatment to their children and of deliberately condoning serious sins committed by fellow believers. So a third characteristic that identifies human apostates is that they reject and try to discredit Jehovah’s representatives here on earth.)))))
Well I'm glad that they are finally mentioning some of the things those that leave are doing before they would not even say anything, the wording can be improved and more qualifying details given but at least they are starting to get a little more specific. I hope they even become more paranoid in the future in their warnings to avoid apostates as this will make many currious as to what the Governing Body is trying to hide.
(((( Heeding his inspired warnings means our very life. How thankful we are for divine warnings against apostasy. May we show our appreciation by walking in God’s word of Truth. May we stay busy in the work Jesus assigned us to do; Sharing God’s word of Truth with others. By doing so, you will forever enjoy Jehovah’s divine seal of approval.)))) God they are so corny that they even assume: " How thankful we are for divine warnings against apostasy". They are truley a bunch of selfserving Dick heads.
Thanks for these notes, guys.
" Hmm let's count how many times Matthew 24:45 is cited or quoted in WTS literature vs. John 3:16. "
John 3:16- 1,187
Matthew 24:45- 1,590
Luke 12: 47-48- 217 ( hardly mentioned )
1) John 3:16 is literal as a scriptural teaching.
2) Matthew and Luke's account are parables. ( Although the WTBT$ teaches that they are parablophecies which allow for any part of those scriptures to be literal of hypothetical depending on the latest wind of teaching. )
This info is based on the 2011 WT CD-Library. I wonder what the ratio of occurences between John 3:16 and Matthew 24:45 is according to the online Library that only reaches back to 2000? I would guess that Matthew 24:45 wins.
how come they never give any real solid examples of what they are talking about.....like a real-life scenario of one of their apostates.....it's so just crazy and senseless. one thing for sure, they endeavor to drum up fear in the flock...fear of something they can't even logically pinpoint or describe. they need to back up this apostate rant with some hard facts and realities. like take something that someone who has left the org has printed or published - bring it out, consider it and shoot holes in it to prove to the flock they are right and the counter-viewpoint is wrong. aha - that could open a can of worms!
They were domestics, part of the household of faith, who partook of Bible truth prepared and dispensed by the faithful steward, the Governing Body. But they pushed away from the table of Jehovah. Their preference is to partake of falsehood at the table of demons."----
One example of "Bible truth" the apostates were expected to believe when at the "table of Jehovah" has now been completely rejected: that the FDS is ALL anointed ones. And that Russell was a member of the FDS.
So much for "Bible truth".
Oh well, on to the next course of "truth".
"how come they never give any real solid examples of what they are talking about.....like a real-life scenario of one of their apostates"
Because a real-life example would illustrate that just maybe "apostates" bring up some very valid points. That's why WT never states what apostates actually say.
Can you imagine what would happen if the WT admitted that the "new light" it teaches now about the governing body and the faithful slave was an 'apostate' concept 30 years ago?
