Band on the run, thank you, thank you thank you.
See people need to leave their preconceptions, assumptions and personal opinions at the door.
That is the difference.
Knowledge is power, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Also arrogance. Some people just don't understand their arrogance. They think because they have discovered something and have researched it and know it and have that info stored in their heads., everyone shold 'just magically know it''
It is arrogance. How on earth are we supposed to just absorb all of the information that is out there in what, like a day.
And then consistently use hubris against the very ones who are trying to figure it out and put it together. IT DOES NOT HELP
Jeffro - you have the patience of a saint ?? no one is asking you to be here though are they, complicating matters.
Your presentation cannot be objectional because you atheist beliefs taint the tone. You cannot state, ok, there was talk about a lot of gods back then 1000's of years ago - which there was - this Bible story has gotten mighty confused and mixed up (for whatever reason is irrelevant).
We are talking about an ancient world here people, not the world we are living in today, it was a very different place.
Look how our own societies have changed in the past 30,40,100 yrs!! big differences.
The point here, is, there is a lie, there is a deception, just because in your mind you think there isn't, and maybe you don't care, is irrelevant.
When I talk to jws in my culture, I know what they are saying, I know what they believe. YOU DO NOT. Not every jw is the same, all people are different.
I have to figure out a way to figure out this mess, and it is a colossal mess, it not as easy as it is for you atheists. There are a lot of people out there who are in the same boat.
I have to figure out a way to approach people I love, and respect, good people, not like I hear about the people in wt you all talk about here, and I have to drop an A-bomb on their world.
Christians believe in Abba the Father, God the Creator, there is no way your going to change that. That is what binds them to the org.