Unbelievable Assertion!!!!!!!

by The Searcher 94 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Phizzy

  Those quotes Blondie , and a huge Thank You for them , show that they have long layed the ground-work for coming out in the blatant way that The Searcher has shown they are now doing.

  This will translate in to the R&F feeling they always knew it was thus, and yet this is simply an urgent call to stay "right in the centre of God's Organization".

  The real impetus for my walking away was the many unsubstantiated claims made by the GB, and that was 5 years ago.

  Once this blatant and truly outrageous claim becomes general, anyone who stays in has to be in for life, they will never wake up.

  Sorry you folks "Staying in for family", when this is established in this undisguised and shameless way, by repetition and I hope in print, then you must confront your family and ask them to prove thoroughly the claims, from the 1919 choosing on.

  If not the choice is to stay in, knowing TTATT, until your loved ones die, before that happens your brain will probably melt and seep out through your ears.
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  irondork

  tag
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  The Searcher

  Obtained the full audio of the Special Assembly Day.

  The title of the talk is, "Follow Your Spirit Directed Conscience."

  Here are his words unedited:

  "Jehovah does not give Holy Spirit, apart from the Scriptures. Now that's the first thing. The second thing is, Jehovah does not provide wisdom through Holy Spirit apart from the Faithful & Discreet Slave Class. We're just going to pause there and review those two main points; the conscience is a gift from God, but in order for it to work as he designed it, we need to be good students of God's word, because He's not going to impart Holy Spirit to us apart from the Scriptures, and He isn't going to impart that Holy Spirit - there is no wisdom from God apart from the Faithful & Discreet Slave class. We want a good conscience that is going to guide us the right way."

  Interestingly, in his morning talk, "Is your Conscience Truly Guided by Bible Principles", he had us read Matthew 5:22 and stated that calling someone "a despicable fool" was likened to calling them an apostate, which could mean the judgement of Gehenna for us, because only Jehovah has the right to judge someone as an apostate!!

  Hasn't the D.O. been reading our literature during the past several decades???????????Just wondering!!
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  The Searcher

  p.s. Thanks Blondie -

  you nailed it with those references; proof that the D.O. is not a maverick, loose cannon, or just vocalising his own thoughts!
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  hamsterbait

  "If you, although wicked, know how to give good things to your children, how much more will your Heavenly Father give HOLY SPIRIT to those asking him."

  Who said this? Pretty ignorant wasnt he?

  HB
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  GoneAwol

  Romans 8:26-27
  English Standard Version (ESV)
  26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.

  Does this now mean that the Holy Spirit needs to ask mother for permission to help people in times of weakness?...

  GoneAwol...for good
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  DATA-DOG

  So the DO is still saying FDS class??!! Is this a class of 8?!
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  FWFranz

  This appears to be an effort in further strengthening their position as God's only channel. Yet their teaching of how the holy spirit is given and works in the believer is clearly not stated anywhere in scripture. The spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, period. All NT examples show this to be a fact. They have attempted to push Christ out of the role as sole mediator for all Christains and now they have decided to "redirect" God's spirit through themselves. A classic example of the WTS attempting to rewrite the scriptures through their own perverted lens.

  FWFranz
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  Finkelstein

  Every religion has built around itself an element of self supporting propaganda.

  Particularly in the Christian faiths.

  Honestly and realistically one should not expect anything different from the JW religion .

  In its purest form this is religion.
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  Finkelstein

  This new proclamation that the GB is directly inline with Christ is not surprising from a practically and logical concept,

  since the WTS. is being openly analyzed and scrutinized on places such as the inter-net.

  This religious organization's history is openly being displayed for the general public to see for themselves,

  as its known its history is full of false teachings and inherent corruption.

  Which doesn't come surprising since this religion was always centered around a publishing House (WTS.)

  and the commercialization of its own published works.