We have always been at risk of peace inbetween wars... oz
Are we on the brink of another world war?
by slimboyfat 88 Replies latest social current
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Vidqun
Politicians (and those involved with the military industrial complex) are confused at the onset of peace.
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Satanus
Conclusion : peace is confusing. Hahaha, too funny.
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Phizzy
Vidqun makes a pertinent point, the HUGE armaments industry, who influence and finance lots of political parties and individual politicians, have a vested interest in fomenting tension, and war if possible, at all times.
It would be good to make sure they do not have such power, but they do it now in a clandestine way mainly, so how do you stop the sleazy back-handers ?
The Masters of War are always with us, Jesus said the poor always would be, but it is the need to finance Armies etc that keeps so many poor, as it did in his day, but of course in the pro-Roman Gospels at least, he does not point this out, that the tax burden was to finance the wars and expansionist policies of the Romans.
It is the same for us here in the U.K and you guys in the U.S, and more reprehensibly in poor countries, a disgusting sum is spent on weapons and Millitary equipment and personnel, far more than is needed for mere defense. Billions of dollars .
All the time we have this situation we will be on the brink of war.
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Vidqun
Why are the Chinese surging ahead? I watched a documentary on how they bid for a project, e.g., a mine in Africa. Western companies bid for the development of the mine and surroundings. They expect the state to provide road and rail links, and a harbor to export the finished product. The Chinese value commodities and bid for the total package. They will develop the road, rail and harbor facilities. I goes without saying why the tender will be awarded to the Chinese company? If Western countries do not change their (colonial) business techniques they will lose out.
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bohm
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fulltimestudent
This CNN report gets to gist of the affect of the dispute on Japan.
The now enormous Chinese market in which Japanese companies have invested heavily is something Japanese businesses can easily walk away from. Some reports suggest that Japanese car-makers for example may have seen their sales drop by 45%. A Chinese friend in Suzhou with a thriving business imports some high quality Japanese products. In the riots that broke out as this issue expanded he had to cover the Japanese products in his showrooms with Chinese flags to hide them from the demonstrators. He also drove a top-of-the-line Toyota and had to hide it in a warehouse to prevent it being smashed. He bought a Mercedes as a replacement.
As the CNN report demonstrates, even within Japan, the loss of Chinese tourists affects many businesses.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/24/world/asia/japan-taiwant-diputed-islands/index.html
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fulltimestudent
In the above image, Natsuo Yamaguchi, head of the New Komeito party which is in coalition with Shinzo Abe's Liberal Democrats, brings a personal letter from Abe to Xi Jinping over the Island dispute.
Source: Global Times - http://www.globaltimes.cn/index.html
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Chariklo
At one level, we're always on the brink of another World War, and have been since the Cuban crisis in 1964.
At another, while country after country rattles it sabres and postures, none of them really want to fight. Each has too much to lose.
The greatest chance of one beginning is if a small country postures too much and, maybe, an individual or small group loses its cool and fires a shot or two. It only takes a spark to start a conflagration. The most probable starting point would be a period of increasing tension...that's more or less a constant, permanent state of affairs, followed by human error, someone waving a gun instead of a flag, not understanding the game.
Other than that it would be economic, provoked by a desire for economic supremacy or monetary gain.
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Glander
Chariklo " The greatest chance of one beginning is if a small country postures too much and, maybe, an individual or small group loses its cool and fires a shot or two."
You said a mouthful. What if it is an Islamic death cult group and they have a small nuke?... doesn't seem like too much of a stretch of credulity that it is possible.