CRAPPING DEAD DINOSAUR MEAT....and the religious implications...

by Terry 125 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry
    Terry

    LET ME TRY AGAIN!

    If we start with the premise of a Creator god then it logically follows that what is created is in accord with self-approval. ("And he saw that it was good.")

    If we start without the premise of a Creator god it logically follows that what exists follows no planned perfection at all. (Chaos)

    Why? An orderly mind does not embrace chaos. In fact, chaos is the opposite of creativity, planning, order, symmetry and such!

    While "nature" abhors the vaccum of mere nothing chaos is at least something.

    Now, if we were to test both of the above premises as to the state of known reality, the question is: which fits best?

    Judeo-christian scriptures propose to answer the puzzle of "Why isn't this the BEST of all possible created worlds?"

    The answer it posits is that IT IS MAN'S FAULT! Why? God, the creator willed this to be the BEST but man interrupted!

    Now with that firmly in mind we turn to a time BEFORE man was introduced into this world.

    Over 30 million years earlier than man (according to natural science) the earth was itself teeming with multifarious lifeforms.

    IF (notice the conditional use of the word?) IF--God intended the earth to be the BEST of all possible worlds---then, why were millions

    of years pre-human existence devoted to creatures whose sole occupation was either hunting down and eating other creatures or avoiding that fate?

    Would the BEST of all POSSIBLE worlds include: fangs, claws, savage attacks, flesh-ripping predations, pain, suffering, hiding, fear?

    THIS TOPIC suggests the presence of such an ongoing chaotic bloodbath tends to logically REFUTE either one of two ideas:

    to wit, either God did NOT intend the BEST of all POSSIBLE worlds

    or....

    No supernatural orgins were connected to the slaughterhouse free-for-all of dinosaur days!

    Who ate whom is beside the point. It was either by design and purpose or it was not.

    If even a young child were to be caught instigating his pets to fight and eat each other that would mark the child as CRUEL and possibly sadistic.

    How much more so GOD?

    What kind of mind would produce a Madhouse subsumed in slaughter?

    End of clarification.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Your theme had me exploring our deep past. The meganeura evolved millions of years before the dinosaur, and had a wingspan of thirty inches! I ask you, if a predatory insect was that big, what was it eating?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW37RHwpj3Y

  • Terry
    Terry

    Your theme had me exploring our deep past. The meganeura evolved millions of years before the dinosaur, and had a wingspan of thirty inches! I ask you, if a predatory insect was that big, what was it eating?

    Its fellows!

    In other words: it was cannibalistic!

    I once asked a really devout religious lady what Noah and all the animals ate AFTER they disembarked from the ark inasmuch as it would be a long long time before they could grow anything edible and presuming

    the animals could not be eaten until they multiplied.

    She paused a moment and tilted her head (as though listening to a spooky voice...) and then said: "Fish!"

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    But Terry the ancient Hebrews didn't know of those past animals that once existed, also probably didn't know

    that there were umpteen thousands of different other species living on the planet when they wrote

    down those theological thoughts, might they had known they probably would never had written what they did write.

    Their thinking revolves through the assumption the god made all animals in a instant and then when Adam and Eve sinned all hell broke lose.

    Isn't all theological thought created by mankind epistemically derived directly from human ignorance ?

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “God is either deliberately the author of Death without any connection to SIN…”

    ...

    “MY point is that it was deliberate INTENTION on the part of a supposed Creator God to design and build killing machines!”

    The biblical depiction is that God deliberately authored death without any connection to sin. Or, at least that’s the way I read it.

    When it comes to killing machines, I think it goes well beyond that!

    For instance, the text of Genesis 1:26 presents humans the gift of rulership over animals. Just think what that means:

    1. Humans could use animals as slaves, including making them work to death.

    2. Humans could kill animals.

    3. Humans could peel the skin off animals.

    4. Humans could disembowel animals and toy around with these entrails until they figured out how to make practical use of them, like using the small intestines to make some of the finest of harp strings.

    This is what the Genesis account presents. Make no mistake: this is carnage!

    It's laughable how Watchtower teaches that human dominion of animals included all the above, but in all this carnage and tinkering around with chunks of slaughtered animal flesh, man’s rulership over animals did not include permission to eat any of these chunks.

    What makes this all the more laughable is that early humans need only look around them to see animal carcasses being eaten. Hence they needed no experimentation to learn animal meat was edible.

    The text of Genesis 1:26 stands as evidence that humans were granted authority to eat animals if they wanted to, and then some. Frankly, I’d rather be killed and eaten than worked to death as a slave.

    Marvin Shilmer

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Fish aren't meat. Sheesh, hasn't the catholic church taught you anything? Even the wt knows that. That's why fish don't need to be bleed before jws eat them. Bugs aren't meat, either.

    S

  • Terry
    Terry

    I'm guessing this topic is officially dead.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I'm joking, btw.

    S

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “I'm guessing this topic is officially dead.”

    Why?

    Marvin Shilmer

  • Terry
    Terry

    “I'm guessing this topic is officially dead.”

    Why?

    Marvin Shilmer

    I should have said "dead"....

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