more abuse in today's watchtower study

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  • besunny

    About 12 years ago when I was a active witness and going through a deep depression because of a very abusive marriage,I would go to the meetings with my 2 small children and could hardly sit through some of the talks without crying,severals times I just got up and walked out,,it was no help at all!!!! and I really tried! what did help was going to some therapy and taking prescribed antidepressants,,then I was able to get enough strength to leave my husband and get back into the work force,,now that I have moved on with my life and am remarried to a wonderful man(not a JW) and have faded I haven't visited that dark place again,,,going to meetings and out in service just made my depression worse,at least for me

  • dazed but not confused
    dazed but not confused

    Heres the study article the OP refers to. I skimmed it and don't see what Solomon is specifically getting at. I hate the WTBTS as much as anyone else. Can you point out anything specific?

    WE LIVE in a time of adversities. The earth
    has been inundated with disasters.
    Earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, floods, volcanoes,
    tornadoes, typhoons, and hurricanes have
    wreaked havoc on humankind. In addition, family
    problems and personal dilemmas have brought fear
    and sorrow. It is so true that “time and unforeseen
    occurrence” befall us all.—Eccl. 9:11.
    2 God’s servants as a whole have coped well with
    such distressing circumstances. Even so, we would
    like to be ready to deal with any difficulties that may
    confront us in the future as this systemnears its end.
    How can we cope with these challenges and not be
    overwhelmed? What will help us meet today’s adversities
    with courage?
    3 Although difficult circumstances affect more
    people than ever before, distressing problems are
    not new to mankind. Let us see what we can learn
    from some of God’s servants who in the past successfully
    faced life with courage.—Rom. 15:4.
    4 Consider David. Among other things, he had
    to put up with the wrath of a king, enemy attacks,
    the abduction of his wives, treachery in his own
    ranks, and emotional distress. (1 Sam. 18:8, 9; 30:
    1-5; 2 Sam. 17:1-3; 24:15, 17; Ps. 38:4-8) The Bible
    accounts of David’s life clearly reveal the pain
    these adversities caused him. However, they did not
    1, 2. What adversities have many experienced, but what is
    the desire of God’s servants?
    3. As shown at Romans 15:4, how might we be comforted
    when facing depressing circumstances?
    4. What adversities did David endure, and what helped him?
    “God is for us a
    refuge and strength,
    a help that is readily
    to be found during
    distresses.”—PS. 46:1.

    How can we avoid being
    overwhelmed by distressing

    What reasons do we have
    for displaying courage?

    What provisions has
    Jehovah made to help us
    face adversities?
    destroy him spiritually. Full of faith, he
    said: “Jehovah is the stronghold of my
    life. Of whom shall I be in dread?”—Ps.
    27:1; read Psalm 27:5, 10.
    5 Abraham and Sarah spent most of
    their life living in tents as aliens in
    strange lands. Life was not always easy
    for them. Yet, they resolutely copedwith
    things like a famine and dangers from
    surrounding nations. (Gen. 12:10; 14:14-
    16)Howwere they able to do this?God’s
    Word tells us that Abraham “was awaiting
    the city having real foundations,
    the builder and maker of which city is
    God.” (Heb. 11:8-10) Abraham and Sarah
    stayed focused on the things ahead,
    not getting dragged down by the world
    around them.
    6 Job experienced extreme pressures.
    Imagine how he felt when everything in
    his life seemed to go wrong. (Job 3:3, 11)
    Making matters worse, he did not fully
    understand why all those things happened
    to him. Still, he never gave up. He
    maintained his integrity and his faith in
    God. (Read Job 27:5.) What a fine example
    for us to imitate!
    7 Consider, too, the apostle Paul’s example.
    He experienced ‘dangers in the
    city, in the wilderness, and at sea.’ He
    speaks of ‘hunger and thirst, cold and
    nakedness.’ Paul also mentions spending
    ‘a night and a day in the deep,’ likely
    because of one of the shipwrecks that
    he went through. (2 Cor. 11:23-27) Despite
    all of that, note the attitude he
    expressed after he had faced death for
    serving God: “This was that we might
    have our trust, not in ourselves, but in
    5. What helped Abraham and Sarah to cope
    with a hard life?
    6. How can we imitate Job?
    7. What did Paul experience as he served God,
    but what realization gave him the courage to
    the God who raises up the dead. From
    such a great thing as death he did rescue
    us and will rescue us.” (2 Cor. 1:8-
    10) Not many people have had as many
    bad experiences as Paul did. Nevertheless,
    many of us can relate to his feelings
    and can take comfort from his courageous
    8 In today’s world so full of disasters,
    challenges, and pressures, many feel
    overwhelmed. Even some Christians
    have felt thatway. Lani, whowas enjoying
    the full-time service with her husband
    in Australia, says that when she
    was diagnosed with breast cancer, it
    was devastating and struck like a bolt
    of lightning. She says, “The treatments
    made me very ill, and I was left with no
    self-esteem.” On top of everything else,
    she had to care for her husband, who
    had undergone spinal surgery. If we find
    ourselves in such a situation, what can
    we do?
    9 We do well to remember that Satan
    wants to use the tribulations we suffer
    to undermine our faith. However, we
    must not allow him to sap our joy in
    this way. Proverbs 24:10 says: “Have you
    shown yourself discouraged in the day
    of distress? Your power will be scanty.”
    Meditating on Biblical examples, such
    as those discussed earlier, will help us to
    muster up courage in the face of adversities.
    10 It is also good to keep in mind that
    Some names have been changed.
    8. Howmight today’s problems affect us? Illustrate.
    9, 10. (a) What must we not allow Satan to
    do? (b) How can we cope with the reality mentioned
    at Acts 14:22?
    we cannot remove all problems. In fact,
    we can expect to experience them.
    (2 Tim. 3:12) Acts 14:22 tells us: “We
    must enter into the kingdom of God
    throughmany tribulations.” Rather than
    becoming dejected, why not view them
    as opportunities to manifest courage
    based on your faith in God’s ability to
    help you?
    11 We need to focus on positive
    things. God’s Word tells us: “A joyful
    heart has a good effect on the countenance,
    but because of the pain of the
    heart there is a stricken spirit.” (Prov. 15:
    13) Medical researchers have long
    recognized the curative value of positive
    thinking. Many patients given sugar
    pills (placebos) have experienced relief
    of symptoms simply because they
    thought they were getting help. The opposite,
    called the nocebo effect, has also
    been demonstrated. Patients’ health deteriorated
    simply because theywere told
    that a drug would have negative effects.
    Constantly dwelling on situations we
    cannot change may only tear us down.
    On the positive side, Jehovah does
    not give us “sugar pills.” Rather, even
    in times of disaster, he gives real help
    through the encouragement found in his
    Word, our supportive brotherhood, and
    the strength provided by holy spirit. Focusing
    on these things will lift us up. Instead
    of dwelling on negative events, do
    what is practical to cope with each problem
    and focus on the positive aspects of
    your life.—Prov. 17:22.
    12 In recent times, some countries
    11. How can we avoid being overwhelmed by
    life’s adversities?
    12, 13. (a) What has helped God’s servants
    to endure the effects of disasters? Illustrate.
    (b) During times of disaster, how does it become
    evident what is most important in one’s
    have suffered severe disasters. Notably,
    many brothers in these lands have
    shown remarkable resilience. This does
    notmean that it was easy. In early 2010,
    a massive earthquake and tsunami in
    Chile destroyed many of our brothers’
    homes and possessions, and in some
    cases, their livelihood. Despite this, the
    brothers just kept on going spiritually.
    Samuel, whose home was completely
    destroyed, said: “Even during these
    extreme circumstances, my wife and I
    never stopped attending meetings and
    preaching. I believe that these habits
    helped us not to become desperate.”
    Along with many others, they put the
    disaster behind them and moved on in
    Jehovah’s service.
    13 In September 2009, over 80 percent
    of Manila, Philippines, was flooded
    by torrential rains. A wealthy man who
    lost much said, “The flood was a great
    equalizer, bringing difficulties and sufferings
    to both the rich and the poor.”
    This reminds us of Jesus’ prudent advice:
    “Store up for yourselves treasures
    in heaven, where neither moth nor rust
    consumes, and where thieves do not
    break in and steal.” (Matt. 6:20) Building
    one’s life around material things, which
    can so quickly disappear, often brings
    disappointment. How much wiser it is
    to center our life on our relationship
    with Jehovah, which can remain intact
    no matter what happens around us!
    —Read Hebrews 13:5, 6.
    14 Jesus acknowledged that there
    would be problems during the time
    14. What reasons do we have for displaying
    OCTOBER 15, 2012 9
    of his presence, but he said: “Do not
    be terrified.” (Luke 21:9) With him as
    our King and with the Creator of the
    universe backing us up, we have every
    reason for confidence. Paul encouraged
    Timothy by saying: “God gave us not a
    spirit of cowardice, but that of power
    and of love and of soundness of mind.”
    —2 Tim. 1:7.
    15 Note some expressions of the
    strong conviction ofGod’s servants. David
    said: “Jehovah is my strength and
    my shield. In him my heart has trusted,
    and I have been helped, so that my
    heart exults.” (Ps. 28:7) Paul expressed
    his unwavering confidence, saying: “In
    all these things we are coming off completely
    victorious through him that
    loved us.” (Rom. 8:37) Likewise, as danger
    loomed, Jesus left no doubt in his listeners’
    minds that he had a strong relationship
    with God, saying: “I am not
    alone, because the Father is with me.”
    (John 16:32) What is evident in these expressions?
    Each reveals unwavering
    trust in Jehovah. Our developing similar
    confidence in God can give us the
    courage to face any of today’s adversities.—
    Read Psalm 46:1-3.
    15. Give examples of the conviction of God’s
    servants, and explain how we can have similar
    16 Christian courage is not selfreliance.
    Rather, it is a result of our getting
    to know God and relying on him.
    We can do this by studying his written
    Word, the Bible. A sister suffering from
    depression explains what helps her,
    “I read especially comforting passages
    over and over again.” Have we applied
    the direction to have a regular time
    for family worship? Doing these things
    will help us to have the attitude of the
    psalmist who said: “How I do love your
    law! All day long it is my concern.”—Ps.
    17 Second, we have Bible-based publications
    containing information that
    strengthens our confidence in Jehovah.
    Many brothers have found life stories in
    our magazines particularly helpful. One
    sister in Asia who suffers from bipolar
    mood disorder was delighted when she
    read the life story of a former missionary
    brother who successfully dealt with
    the same disorder. She wrote, “It helped
    me to understand my own problem and
    gave me hope.”
    16. Why is the study of God’s Word important
    for us?
    17. (a) What provision may help us maintain
    a courageous outlook? (b) Give an example of
    how a published life story has helped you.
    When you face adversity,
    take advantage of the
    help Jehovah has provided
    18 A third provision is prayer. This
    can help in all kinds of situations. The
    apostle Paul drew attention to the value
    of this provision, saying: “Do not
    be anxious over anything, but in everything
    by prayer and supplication along
    with thanksgiving let your petitions be
    made known to God; and the peace of
    God that excels all thought will guard
    your hearts and your mental powers by
    means of Christ Jesus.” (Phil. 4:6, 7) Do
    we take full advantage of this avenue of
    help to gain strength in the midst of adversities?
    Alex, a brother in Britain who
    has long suffered from depression, said:
    “Talking to Jehovah in prayer and listening
    to him by reading hisWord has been
    a lifeline for me.”
    19 Association at meetings is a fourth
    vital provision to help us. A psalmist
    wrote: “My soul has yearned and also
    pined away for the courtyards of Jehovah.”
    (Ps. 84:2) Do we feel the same?
    Lani, mentioned earlier, explains her
    view of Christian association: “Attending
    meetings was not optional. I knew
    that I had to be there if I expected Jehovah
    to help me cope.”
    18. Why should we utilize the provision of
    19. What should be our view of attending
    Christian meetings?
    20 A fifth help is to keep active in the
    Kingdom-preaching work. (1 Tim. 4:
    16) A sister in Australia who has experienced
    a multitude of problems says:
    “Preaching was the last thing I wanted
    to do, but an elder invited me to go
    with him. I went. Jehovah must have
    been helping; each time I shared in the
    ministry, I felt so happy.” (Prov. 16:20)
    Many have found that by helping others
    to build faith in Jehovah, they strengthen
    their own faith. In so doing, they
    keep their mind off their own problems
    and keep focused on the more important
    things.—Phil. 1:10, 11.
    21 Jehovah has provided abundant
    help to meet today’s adversities with
    courage. By taking advantage of all
    these provisions and by meditating on
    and imitating fine examples of courageous
    servants of God, we have the assurance
    that we can face difficulties
    successfully. Although many negative
    things may yet happen as this system
    nears its end, we can feel as did Paul,
    who said: “We are thrown down, but
    not destroyed. . . .We do not give up.”
    (2 Cor. 4:9, 16) With Jehovah’s help, we
    can meet today’s adversities with courage.—
    Read 2 Corinthians 4:17, 18.
    20. How will sharing in the preaching work
    help us?
    21. What assurance do we have regarding the
    difficulties we face?

  • jay88

    Steve2: Despite years of exposure to the Watchtower's teachings, remain balanced and un-mentally disturbed individuals, in or out of the organization.

    My question is:

    How the hell do they do it(remain balanced and un-mentally disturbed)?

  • dazed but not confused
    dazed but not confused

    Solomon---The cure for mental illness according to today's Watchtower. Pray more, don't miss meetings, and go in service more. This will cure your disease.

    Where does it say "Cure your disease"? It mentions helping you cope. Dont make a mountain out of a mole hill

  • tiki

    love it outlaw!

  • elderelite

    yea i have to say i dont see it myself... perhaps around para 8 they talk about someone dealing with cancer and then her husband also had a major operation. the advise was pray etc etc... but thats not depression, that going through major problems. I think all christian religions would advocate prayer under those circumstances.

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Paragraphs 11 and 16 thru 20 focused heavily on the value of positive thinking, problems associated with depression, bipolar and individuals with little or no self-esteem. Paragraph 4 even says that David suffered from bouts of emotional distress. Then there is the pictures on page 10 and 11 showing how WT prescribes studying JW publications, going to meetings and field service to cope. My guess is that the ‘sister’ in the pictures is suffering from some sort of depression associated with low self-esteem.

    So yes, I think Solomon hit it spot on. JWs are screwed-up in the head. Of the 155 publishers in our congregation, I would say that a high percentage could relate to this study article.

    Bottom line….associating with the WT causes mental discease!

  • Chariklo

    It seems to be saying the answer to adversity is to face it with courage. Actually, COURAGE!

    Still, I don't see mention of mental disease etc. it does speak of a sister suffering depression who is comforted by Bible passages. That wouldn't be likely to comfort clinical depression, which can be a most debilitating illness and completely unrelated to courage.

    I think there is the implicit assumption and message to the sheep that if you're depressed you're not other words, you're a coward, and not trusting in Jehovah enough, and that really is unacceptable. An illness is not the sufferer's fault. It's an illness.

  • puffthedragon

    WT has in the past recommended seeking professional help for depresion

    *** g 7/09 pp. 4-6 Depression—How to Treat It ***

    Depression—How to Treat It

    “MY HUSBAND and I have sought out medical treatment, made lifestyle changes, and worked hard to develop a routine that I can cope with,” says Ruth, who has suffered with depression for many years. “We seem to have found an effective medication, and I am doing better. But during the time when nothing else seemed to work, the constant love of my husband and friends helped me not to give up.”

    As Ruth’s experience indicates, patients who suffer from clinical depression need all the support they can get, including whatever medical approach might be advisable. It can be risky to ignore depression because in some cases when left untreated it can be life-threatening. About two thousand years ago, Jesus Christ acknowledged that those with medical experience could provide needed help, when he said that ‘those who are ill need a physician.’ (Mark 2:17) The fact is that physicians can do much to alleviate the suffering of many depressed patients.

    Some Helpful Options

    There are a number of treatments for depression, varying according to the symptoms and the severity of the illness. (See the box on page 5, “What Kind of Depression?”) Many people may be helped by their family physician, but some need more specialized treatment. The doctor might prescribe antidepressant medication or recommend some other form of assistance. Some people have experienced good results with herbal medications, dietary adjustments, or a controlled exercise program.

    Common Issues

    1. Well-meaning friends with little or no medical training might try to tell you which method of treatment to accept and which to reject. They might also have strong opinions about whether you should take herbal medicine, prescribed medication, or nothing at all.

    Consider: Make sure that any advice you accept comes from a reliable source. In the end, you are the one who must make an informed choice.

    2. Discouragement may make patients discontinue their choice of treatment because they do not seem to be getting better or because of unpleasant side effects.

    Consider: “There is a frustrating of plans where there is no confidential talk, but in the multitude of counselors there is accomplishment.” (Proverbs 15:22) A program of medical therapy is more likely to succeed if there is good communication between doctor and patient. Frankly explain your concerns or describe your symptoms to your doctor, and ask whether you need to adjust the treatment or simply to persevere before you will begin to experience benefits.

    3. Overconfidence can make patients stop their medical remedy abruptly after a few weeks because they feel better. They may forget how debilitating their symptoms were before they started their medication.

    Consider: Suddenly terminating medical treatment without consulting a doctor can have serious and even life-threatening consequences.

    Though the Bible is not a medical textbook, its Author, Jehovah God, is our Creator. The next article will examine the comfort and guidance God’s Word provides both for those who suffer from depression and for their caregivers.

  • blondie

    I have my comments up now...I did comment on that. I remember a sister who used to think that prayers and meetings were all it took, after all she had never been depressed. She would severely counsel other jws on their depression. Then she was struck with severe depression that kept her housebound for months until the doctors found the right medication cocktail for her...I give her credit for going and apologizing to all the jws she had chastised.

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