Watchtower's New "Toy Story" - What Parents Need To Know

by cedars 166 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • 00DAD

    [EDIT: My previous post "weirded out" so I am reposting it. ]


    As always, I admire your hard work, your willingness to take a stand and get the word out. As a parent and professional educator, I find much that is wrong with this video. I'll riff on that later, but for now ...

    I also appreciate your openness to feedback from your peers. In that spirit let me make these observations:

    1. Young Witness Infants - In the second paragraph of your article you refer to the video's target audience as "young Witness infants." Although definitions for the term vary between birth and 3 years of age, the term infant is typically applied to young children between the ages of 1 month and 12 months. Interestingly, Disney's Toy Story toys are marketed to children ages 3-7 years. I am unaware of a technical name for this general age group, but the terms "small children" or "very young children" would certainly be appropriate. It's obvious the WTBTS targeted this same pre-school and kindergarten demographic.
    2. The Plastic Toy Wizard - I doubt a die-hard JW would agree with your assessment that "in reality there is absolutely nothing harmful or satanic about children playing with plastic toy wizards." Saying that, especially as early as you do in your essay, will likely call to mind the Thought Stopping phrases the JWS are trained to think: Apostate! Then you lose the very target audience that you hope to convince. Your acknowledgement in the following paragraph of Bible principles related to the subject are the likely ones that they would apply. I think your strongest argument is that, in the video, "Without reading a single scripture in support of her arguments, she manages to convince Caleb that the toy wizard makes Jehovah 'sad'." Also, what of the inherent contradiction that the WTBTS has used a Plastic Toy Wizard in the production of this film? Why can THEY have this (virtual) prop and not be guilty of "making Jehovah sad," but poor little Caleb cannot?
    3. Critical Thinking: You wrote, "Unquestionably, the worst thing about it is the fact that the Society is now unashamedly producing films that seem specifically designed to rob a new generation of their reasoning ability." I agree but I don't think you make your case as clearly and as strongly as you can. What specifically is it about this film that "robs [people] of their reasoning ability"? Mom DOES in fact "reason" with Caleb using some Bible accounts with which he is familiar. What are the logical flaws in the argument? I'm not trying to be difficult but the average JW will agree with the "reasoning" as presented in the video. You need to do more than assert that it is flawed, you need to explicitly point out those flaws.
    4. OBEY: “Thank you! I’m so proud of you for obeying!” - It is very significant that the all-important nurturing qualities which parents, especially mothers, need to have and show in abundance for children to thrive are so blatantly missing from the parents in this video. Children need to know they are loved and valued. Good behavior needs to be reinforced as does bad/unwanted behavior need to be addressed. But concern for the child's overall sense of self should be paramount for their emotional and spiritual development. While a certain appreciation for obedience is important for all of us to possess as members of society, qualities like goodness, kindness, patience, curiosity, thoughtfulness and consideration are a lot higher on the list of caring parents than blind obedience. How medieval in their thinking!


  • 00DAD

    There is no question that CONFORMITY is the message here. The video is NOT titled "Listen, THINK, DECIDE and Be Blessed", it's all about OBEY!

    Some things to think about,


  • d

    This amount of control excerted is just sickening.

  • edmond dantes
    edmond dantes

    In any case the Bible is full of myths and legends if its wrong for a child to play with a mythical figure then Anthony Morris and the rest of the GB should not try to foist crazy beliefs on mankind.

  • Joe Grundy
    Joe Grundy

    Cedars: Following on from my post above, please feel free to PM me if I can assist.

  • sd-7

    Hmm. I was thinking about this issue, a magical toy. Well, see, there are three layers involved in terms of this issue, I'll list 'em in terms of seriousness:

    1. Playing with a toy wizard, who in a cartoon or movie uses magic. You imagine it uses magic, though it cannot, as it is a toy.

    2. Watching a wizard in a cartoon or movie who uses magic. You're watching a depiction of magic, though it is actually just computer-generated special effects, camera tricks, wire work, and so on.

    3. You actually use magic yourself. many Witnesses have been expelled for #1 or #2? None that I know of. Only #3 actually falls into the condemnation given in scripture, as it is the "PRACTICE of spiritism" that is one of the 'works of the flesh', not having a toy of a fictional character who practices spiritism or watching a fictional story where spiritism occurs. #1 and #2 are basically guilt by association.

    Let's say it's Phinehas, the Violent Israelite Action Figure, then we've got 3 layers again:

    1. Playing with a violent action figure. You imagine it kills people, or robots, or whatever.

    2. Watching an action star kill people--but he's not actually killing people, thankfully, this ain't an ancient gladiator thing.

    3. Actually killing people yourself.

    See how that works? In neither #1 nor #2 are people actually being killed. Only in #3. Does that mean #1 and #2 are necessarily good ideas to do? Well, that should be up to the individual. No actual breaking of the commandment has been done in either case, so to say that it is, is equating Caleb as being a magician himself or the Bond movie fan as himself being a murderer. The logic kind of falls apart there.

    Granted, no JW will see it that way. I was just thinking...I mean, how does the logic fit together here? Even by what the Bible actually says, we have to assume #1 and #2 are essentially as serious as #3 to use the scriptures condemning #3 as meaning #1 and #2 are wrong in themselves.

    I'm just throwing it out there. As always, I may be wrong.


  • 00DAD

    sd-7, yes my friend, I'm sad to say you are wrong.

    You see, the use of imagination is wrong. Pretend is wrong and fantasy is wrong as all eventually lead to apostasy, which is a separation from God and that ultimately leads to death.

    So, don't use your imagination. Don't ever pretend (unless of course you're pretending to be a good little JW, because that is OK) and quit your fantasies, especially those involving "abhorrent" forms of pornography.

    Logic is not necessary here. In fact, you don't even need to do ANY thinking as we've already done that for you. All you need to do is .... wait for it ...


    It really is as simple as that. We hope that clears things up for you.

    Warm Christian Love,

    The Governing Body

  • jwfacts

    Cedars - Diana - I know what you mean. I saw the videos just before going to bed on Sunday night, and they put me in a really foul mood. I think they tap into disturbing childhood memories in many of us who were raised as JWs.

    I agree with that. The clips look harmless, not much different to watching any cartoon, but put me into a cold sweat.

  • Kojack57

    Cedars: Your post hopefully will make people think out side the box of the BORG. Thanks


  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises
    an emotionally insecure adult, very possibly prone to deceive and hide his real feelings for fear of displeasing those he loves but whom he secretly fears, and rightly fears, because they'll turn on him without hesitation if he does wrong.

    SOOOOO perceptive!!! This was me growing up, and as a JW adult too.

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