Regulate Marijuana Like Wine (interesting article)

by sabastious 87 Replies latest jw friends

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    http://regulatemarijuanalikewine.com/legal-and-political-analysis-of-regulate-marijuana-like-wine/

    I am ecstatic to hear that people are attempting something like this. I have always thought that using Marijuana could be likened to using wine as a medicine. It is socially acceptable to have a craving for wine or beer after a stressful day. I believe that is because, when used responsibly, wine and beer (not hard alcohol, imo, that's stuff is just poison and and guilty pleasure, most people admit it), can be a fine "stabilizer." The effects of too much wine or beer can, and obviously has, been the cause of unspeakable death by automobile accidents as it highly decreases motor function.

    All this hullabaloo about weed has gotten out of control, imo.

    -Sab

  • designs
    designs

    Could make for a nice tax revenue. As long as the public gets educated on how long the high lasts so they don't get behind a wheeland drive its probably ok. As an X-addict I have no interest in any of it, can't take the chance but if some can handle it responsibly then ok.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Could make for a nice tax revenue. As long as the public gets educated on how long the high lasts so they don't get behind a wheeland drive its probably ok. As an X-addict I have no interest in any of it, can't take the chance but if some can handle it responsibly then ok.

    The thing about the weed of today is that there are literally endless possibilities through genetic breeding. There can be as many strains of weed as there can be types of dogs. If RMLW went through then it would get even more attention and the genetic strains will exponentially grow. Certain strains, for me at least, actually highly increase my motor functions. I have been practicing juggling for the past 6 months and I have witnessed a noticeable increase in muscle memory and motor function when I am medicated on certain strains. I'm not saying it's ok to drive, but even with alcohol there is a legal limit that is supposed to be scientific. If RMLW went through I'm sure there would be something like the legal limit of alcohol.

    -Sab

  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    There can be as many strains of weed as there can be types of dogs.

    Or a better analogy could be types of wine..depending on the buzz.

    dc

  • designs
    designs

    Champaign and Sex were pretty damn fun

  • darthfader
    darthfader

    I'm not arguing for or against, but I wonder what the response to these statements would be:
    (clipped from: http://www.justice.gov/dea/demand/speakout/index.html )

    Summary of the Top Ten Facts on Legalization

    Fact 1: We have made significant progress in fighting drug use and drug trafficking in America. Now is not the time to abandon our efforts.

    The Legalization Lobby claims that the fight against drugs cannot be won. However, overall drug use is down by more than a third in the last twenty years, while cocaine use has dropped by an astounding 70 percent. Ninety-five percent of Americans do not use drugs. This is success by any standards.

    Fact 2: A balanced approach of prevention, enforcement, and treatment is the key in the fight against drugs.

    A successful drug policy must apply a balanced approach of prevention, enforcement and treatment. All three aspects are crucial. For those who end up hooked on drugs, there are innovative programs, like Drug Treatment Courts, that offer non-violent users the option of seeking treatment. Drug Treatment Courts provide court supervision, unlike voluntary treatment centers.

    Fact 3: Illegal drugs are illegal because they are harmful.

    There is a growing misconception that some illegal drugs can be taken safely. For example, savvy drug dealers have learned how to market drugs like Ecstasy to youth. Some in the Legalization Lobby even claim such drugs have medical value, despite the lack of conclusive scientific evidence.

    Fact 4: Smoked marijuana is not scientifically approved medicine. Marinol, the legal version of medical marijuana, is approved by science.

    According to the Institute of Medicine, there is no future in smoked marijuana as medicine. However, the prescription drug Marinol—a legal and safe version of medical marijuana which isolates the active ingredient of THC—has been studied and approved by the Food & Drug Administration as safe medicine. The difference is that you have to get a prescription for Marinol from a licensed physician. You can’t buy it on a street corner, and you don’t smoke it.

    Fact 5: Drug control spending is a minor portion of the U.S. budget. Compared to the social costs of drug abuse and addiction, government spending on drug control is minimal.

    The Legalization Lobby claims that the United States has wasted billions of dollars in its anti-drug efforts. But for those kids saved from drug addiction, this is hardly wasted dollars. Moreover, our fight against drug abuse and addiction is an ongoing struggle that should be treated like any other social problem. Would we give up on education or poverty simply because we haven’t eliminated all problems? Compared to the social costs of drug abuse and addiction—whether in taxpayer dollars or in pain and suffering—government spending on drug control is minimal.

    Fact 6: Legalization of drugs will lead to increased use and increased levels of addiction. Legalization has been tried before, and failed miserably.

    Legalization has been tried before—and failed miserably. Alaska’s experiment with Legalization in the 1970s led to the state’s teens using marijuana at more than twice the rate of other youths nationally. This led Alaska’s residents to vote to re-criminalize marijuana in 1990.

    Fact 7: Crime, violence, and drug use go hand-in-hand.

    Crime, violence and drug use go hand in hand. Six times as many homicides are committed by people under the influence of drugs, as by those who are looking for money to buy drugs. Most drug crimes aren’t committed by people trying to pay for drugs; they’re committed by people on drugs.

    Fact 8: Alcohol has caused significant health, social, and crime problems in this country, and legalized drugs would only make the situation worse.

    The Legalization Lobby claims drugs are no more dangerous than alcohol. But drunk driving is one of the primary killers of Americans. Do we want our bus drivers, nurses, and airline pilots to be able to take drugs one evening, and operate freely at work the next day? Do we want to add to the destruction by making drugged driving another primary killer?

    Fact 9: Europe’s more liberal drug policies are not the right model for America.

    The Legalization Lobby claims that the “European Model” of the drug problem is successful. However, since legalization of marijuana in Holland, heroin addiction levels have tripled. And Needle Park seems like a poor model for America.

    Fact 10: Most non-violent drug users get treatment, not jail time.

    The Legalization Lobby claims that America’s prisons are filling up with users. Truth is, only about 5 percent of inmates in federal prison are there because of simple possession. Most drug criminals are in jail—even on possession charges—because they have plea-bargained down from major trafficking offences or more violent drug crimes.

  • designs
    designs

    Seems like you have to go all the way or not, half measures like the Medical Pot Dispensories were just fronts for the illegal suppliers.

    Federal Dept. of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Fire Arms.

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    I hate to say it, those "facts" are very Watchtoweresque. The term "drugs" is defined as much as "bad association" is by the Watchtower. What's happened is that people now go to doctors who prescribe them their drugs which are harmful. It's an elitest mentality when someone else feels they have the right to choose the risk and reward for another human being. Guidance is one thing, enforcement is another.

    My case is unique because I have went through the medical community and have been declared, by them, an anomaly. So, do I get some sort of federal "Anomaly Status" so that I can continue treatment on my own? What happens when you run out of options, do you start back over with the first one that failed originally? Wait on the pharmaceutical scientists! Wait on Jehovah... same thing.

    The fact is the war on drugs makes incredible profits for the governments that enforce it. Fines are attached to every offense. Follow the money, imo, and you'll see it for what it is.

    -Sab

  • dgp
    dgp

    Being "south of the border" (I just won't say how far south), I see this with different eyes.

    Those in favor of legalizing marijuana usually think that the criminal ramifications of drug use will cease to exist once marijuana becomes an item like so many others. The problem with that argument is that the same gangs that trade with marijuana also trade with cocaine and designer drugs, and, in places like Mexico, also work in kidnapping and extortion. Legalizing marijuana would only mean that one of their businesses would become legal. If marijuana were legalized, they would have the legal means to support their other "pursuits".

    I find Darthfader's points very correct. May I only add that the drug problem is an international problem now, and it cannot be dealt with as if it were a domestic issue only.

    Much attention is being given to the war Mexico is waging against drugs. Many people claim that the drug war can't be won. They seem to forget that Colombia was in a double bind. They had drug cartels that were the most powerful in the world at the time. They also had right-wing and left-wing guerrillas, all of whom also sold drugs (for a greater principle, they would have claimed). And they have achieved a consistent victory over drugs. That victory may not be as complete as one would like to think, but Colombia is now a very different country from what it was.

    Maybe it can be claimed that the war on drugs gives money to the governments that enforce it, as Sabastious claims. I don't know much about that. I do know that, in Mexico and Central America, governments have no option but to fight drugs, or else they will become failed states. Guatemala is at the brink of becoming such a state. The war on drugs in those countries is certainly not about money. It's about how a group of very powerful thugs could eventually take control of everyone in the country.

  • strymeckirules
    strymeckirules

    it was the united nations that outlawed weed, and coca plant and poppy cultivation(and mushrooms).

    that it a U.S.A. corporation enforceing it's will on the world.

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