Wow! That is great. How long did your process take? I left....dissappeared quickly. But once in a while I would attend some meeting at another hall. Every time pushed me farther away. I went to the memorials for my mom but I realized that it was such a waste of time and giving my mom false hope.
I am out (finally) - done with the Witnesses
Anony Mous - The way you used their own scriptures to counsel them was courageous. Jesus did something similar, if I recall correctly... lol
ANONYMOUS- Excellent, excellent job on your part ! You never know how many JW's sitting in that audience you might get to start thinking. It took a lot of nerve and courage to get that information out to them the way you wanted to present it. Kudos to you !
I'm sorry your dad is so mind controlled still ; I deal with that in my adult daughters and a score of JW relatives. They are just being controlled psychologically by the WT society. In time hopefully you'll break through. Just try showing authentic human love . They won't understand your new stand totally , but that's O.K. Stick to your guns. You have your freedom of mind. And no one can put a price on how important a possession that is
Anony Mous' father - "Jehovah will continue leading us through an organisation that is human and makes mistakes and if we continue doing that in this system of things he will use the organization to lead us through Armageddon"
Hi Anony Mous, will you ask your father for me, "Why you should blindly follow the WTBTS, which is human and makes mistakes?" You are human also and can make your own mistakes. i would love to know what your father thinks of Mt 15:1-20. Replace the words Pharisees with JWs/elders/CO/DO/GB in Mt 15:1-20.
Mt 15:1-20 1984 NIV: 1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ [a] and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ [b] 5 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6 he is not to ‘honor his father [c] ’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.’ [d] ”
10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”
12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”
13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. [e] If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”
16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man ‘unclean.’ 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what make a man ‘unclean’; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him ‘unclean.’”
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Hi everyone. My wife just left for the KH, I told her that if she needs me that I'll help her and that there is nothing bad that is going to happen. She hugged me and squeezed me.
My first real doubts (like "this shit is going to kill someone") came 6 months ago (a week before I opened an account here). My wife was pregnant and the elders came on their compulsary visit (it is compulsary since the last elder school) to remind us so lovingly of the blood transfusion arrangement. They said (and the piece of paper from the branch office (too bad I wasn't allowed to get a copy of it) that they had might have said that as well) that it's better to let our child die for Jehovah as an offering than accept a blood transfusion. I cannot conscientiously agree to that - yeah, maybe if it's really the truth I should shun my family, maybe God will kill everyone but that's on God - but I can not let my lovely baby daughter DIE as an offering to Molech... I mean Jehovah. It is outright forbidden in the Bible to even make such an offering and it's even worse if you say that you're doing it in the name of Jehovah (see Leviticus 18:21).
I told my wife after the conventions - sorry, I can no longer believe what is being thought. She thought it was a fase I was going through. I talked to my father-in-law who is also an elder and he said that what was said to me was not the intention and he was going to clear it up. It was never cleared up - some may say that I should wait on Jehovah - but in the mean time she was born and the doctors had already warned us of a chance (10%) of complications (there were none luckily). What I read in the publications and then later on ajwrb.org cleared things up for me - they have no f*in clue what they're talking about from a medical or scientific standpoint - I work in the scientific field, I know what a good paper (even if it's bullshit) should look like - the Watchtower came nowhere close to even a high school essay on the subject. The doctor reaffirmed my suspicion - there is no substitute to the parts of blood JW's reject and whole blood is almost never used anymore anyway so what parts do we accept as some of her patients accepted all and some none. My wife's family wanted to contact an elder and so we did - plasma is acceptable aka the elder had no f*in clue about his own policies either! I am happy that it's on record that my wife wants to accept the most frequently used blood fractions.
I had been seeking contact with my mother who was disfellowshipped and who I so stupidly shunned on recommendation of the WT and finally got her e-mail address from another ex-Witness. I e-mailed her today and sent pictures of her grand daughter. I hope she doesn't reject me as I did her.
I did. I asked him all the hard question and answered his e-mail line for line. He accused me of not answering his questions, that I'm not thinking for myself but being used as a 'soup ball' by the opposers of the organization and that all such questions came from opposers and thus directly from Satan. I should not question the organization since questioning is from Satan who started by questioning Eve in the Garden of Eden. He also said that I am going to leave my wife and be very unhappy like all the other opposers he knows - they have apparently all left their significant other and are now very unhappy.
I am sure your last talk brought some comfort to people who were burdened down by the laws of the JW org. Good job, very interesting read. I am curious to know more details about your exit. Sorry if you have posted them elsewhere, I have not been online here in a while.
Congrats! You'll be happier,you will see!
I am already happier. My exit was just that - I quit like I quit a day job, cold turkey, yesterday I told my wife (at 3:00 am in the morning) that I didn't believe and that it wasn't going away since we last talked several months ago. She eventually told her dad and by the evening he came and talked to me and he said, if you don't want to do it, just quit. I sent the Congregation papers I had back with my wife today (they haven't been done in months), deposited all the funds I had on hand from the congregation in their bank account and gave the key to the Kingdom Hall to my wife.
I was going to fade but then my wife and her father said it's better not to fake it. So I didn't. You can read some of my older posts to see what else I was doing between doubting and coming out to my wife.
My non-JW dad told me to just walk away if it was the dangerous high-control group I said it was.
Many people here know why I said it wasn't that easy as I was very fully involved. But it really is that easy in many cases.
ANONYMOUS- Hang in there my friend. You are a brave guy. You have friends here. We'll be a support to you. I send you upbeat vibes