Hello Cattails, Some of the programs do come off paltalk,but not all. We are working on streaming audio right of of the website which will be easier for people to listen in all over the world. Check paltalk tonight and see if someone is putting up tonights call. I do have a phone card number I will give you to get on . private mail me
What is happening to JWN ?...So many topics not relating to Jehovah's Witnesses!
What's tonights call about? I've tuned in a few times.
Wow Outlaw, that reminds me of how my mom used to whoop me with words
sometimes I would prefer a spankin' cause I got over those quicker
But the words she spoke were always true, whether I wanted to hear them or not
Greetings, dear Kool-Aid Man... and may you have peace!
I have been here long enough to *witness* the *evolution* of the board and I can only say PRAISE JAH that I am free enough to have done so! As a witness I had to *watch/keep an eye on* everything, every tiny little thing: what I said, what others said, how I said it, how they said it, what I said it about, what they said it about, whether I offended/stumbled them... whether they offended/stumbled me. And so and virtually everything was a potential *offense* - if not to *Jehovah*, then to the *brothers/sisters*... or even [supposed to be] to myself. What a BURDEN!!
Here, people say practically anything and everything, yes. Do I like everything that is said? No. Do I like everyone that says it? Nope. But I don't have to. Yes, I have to love them... and to the greatest extent I can, I do. But I don't have to like them... or what they say. Nor do they have to like (or even love) me or what I say.
JWN has evolved over the years, yes, but such evolution is cyclical. Trends comes and go. Posters come and go. In between, posters fight, make up, love, ridicule... and pretty much go through all of the "relationship" cycles and emotions that new (or not so fond) acquaintances go through. I've been here a bit and yet, people who've been here only a minute come down on me, insisting that I teach/believe things I don't. I don't take offense, though, because I know they don't know me. Once they get to, however, they either leave me alone... or exude a great deal of love toward me. Imagine how I would feel if I had let myself take offense and/or come to hate them?
I also don't take offense because, while I realize that I am foolish, and not wise, I don't necessarily want to be counted in with the "stupid." How do I mean? I mean by not listening to Christ... and thus, to Wisdom. And something that that One helped me undertand was the futility in hurriedly taking offense. To help you understand what I mean, may I direct you to a couple verses that my Lord showed me, that might help you, as well? They are:
"Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. Do not say: “Why has it happened that the former days proved to be better than these?” for it is not due to wisdom that you have asked about this." Ecclesiastes 7:9, 10
Craving the "old" and "how it used to be" isn't always wise, dear one. The Israelites made that mistake, didn't they, when they were finally released from Egypt? And trying to control other people, their actions/thoughts, and any environment except our own... is unloving. Understandably then, it is among those habits we learned from the WTBTS. If we tend to still do that, however, have we really left them? Perhaps not, at least, not to the extent we believe we have and/or wish others to believe. A great way to help with that? "Keep an eye... on yourself." Sure, it's good sometimes to "contemplate" how another's conduct "turns out" but it's not upon any of us to try and dictate to others how that conduct SHOULD turn out.
Bottom line: it is not fair to criticize JWN so. It is not the WTBTS and, therefore, shouldn't be expected to be ran like that organization... or even close. As some have said, if that's what one is looking for, one should really go back there. Because apparently living "free"... even partially so... isn't something such one is truly ready for, yet.
Again, peace to you!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
I love the way you express things...and agree with you completely here.
This board has indeed changed over the years. That's a good thing!!! When Simon first started the board he was still an active jw. Communicating with others here along with his own experiences were istrumental in his own exodus from the wt. Change is a part of life.... and our own shared personal experiences have helped us to learn that here.
Freedom can be a scary thing to some...especially when one is born in the organization and knows no other structure. Trying to retain the structure while losing the borg is a tricky thing... One can enjoy being an elder...and want to recreate that position outside the borg. That doesn't work with those who are truly out of the wt.
I simply feel the board is changing.
THE one constant in life is change. You can't stop it. Some of the issues in the Botchtower have been hashed over and over. They are pretty much the same today as they have been for years. The spice of life is variety.
I am not a JW but some of my family are. I have learned a lot from the non-JW related threads that have given me things the JW related threads could not. To deny us this is to deny us the very thing the Borg has denied its members -- freedom, joy, sharing, growth, creativity, learning, and fun.
I, for one, like the non-JW threads. Keep 'em coming!
Get over it already and stop trying to put little post to correct things to the way YOU want to see it. People should write what ever they want, as the exit from the religion is as much about discussing what the religion did, believes, etc. As it is about making new friends, laughing and just plain bull shitting from time to time about what we are doing now and thinking about.
Okay, I feel I need to weigh in on this. This is a community, not an activist site. A community has many and varied interests.
To be perfectly blunt, it looks like you left the witnesses but still miss the power of putting on a suit and feeling important. There are no ranks to climb in the ex-JW community. Any respect is earned, not commanded. At least for me, it's not earned by telling me how to spend my personal time.
Shelby, you are very right and very sweet.
What I find from most of the posts on this thread is an attitude very much like The Watchtower Organization. Someone speaks up and says something critical, in a constructive way and immediately is chastised and disciplined. Many are acting like crazed elders suffering loss of emotional control. Does this forum allow for doubts or sincere earnest questioning?