The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty 556 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  cofty

  Earlier you asked why someone would eat an animal found dead. If you think about it the answer is obvious.

  A sheep or cow was a very valuable asset to its owner. Finding it dead would have been a significant loss. Obviously they would want to salvage something if possible. In Leviticus God said that whatever they decided to do it had to be included in the long list of normal things that resulted in uncleanness. Either burying or eating the remains had exactly the same consequences. I'm sure then the decision would largely be based on the condition of the carcass and how long it had been dead.

  40 years later the circumstances of the nation were changing. Now they were going to be settling down in towns and villages and living among foreigners. Keen to encourage ceremonial cleanness Moses now encourages them to choose a better option of selling the carcass to a foreigner. That way - assuming the buyer collects - they don't have to touch or eat the carcass and avoid becoming unclean.

  Nowhere in any scripture is the sacredness of blood mentioned in connection with eating an animal found already dead.

  This is the anomaly you have still not attempted to explain.
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  Fisherman

  cofty, your comentary is hogwash.
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  TD

  A sheep or cow was a very valuable asset to its owner. Finding it dead would have been a significant loss.

  That's a pretty fair assessment, Cofty. It's not unusual even today for livestock to be lost by lighting strike (Because of the tendency to stand near and/or actually lean against fences) and it would be a huge loss for a family of modest means hoping for years of utility from their one heifer.

  Gravity will render some parts of the carcass reasonably well bled, but even so, there would be a sense of shame about the whole thing, akin to being reduced to penury and begging in the street.
  
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  dubstepped

  Fisherman, casting a line and getting eaten alive for 13 years on here. You may start fights you can't win, but you can hold your head high knowing that you started it.

  Nice work here Cofty. I'm kind of glad Fishy bumped this, not just to watch him lose again, but these are very interesting thoughts. The JW teaching on blood just doesn't hold up under any reason. One can pick and choose a verse, take it literally and without context, but that's something religions of the world do that JWs condemn. JWs would certainly never do that, lol
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  Fisherman

  Law vs cofty's commentary

  "..ahhh there is he rub"

  The Bible is clear that God forbade Israel to eat dead animals but:

  Deut 14:21 YOU MUST NOT EAT any animal that was found dead. You may give it to the foreign resident who is inside your cities, and he may eat it, or it may be sold to a foreigner. For you are a holy people to Jehovah your God.
  

  Why did God allow those not under the law of Moses to eat an unbled carcass when God forbade mankind to eat animals that were not bled?

  Gen 9:4 Only flesh with its life—its blood—you must not eat.
  
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  Crazyguy

  Contradiction Fisherman, Leviticus chapter 17 says you can eat a dead animal and only be unclean for a day.

  The real rub is there's roughly one million white blood cells per drop of human beast milk, same with cows milk. In fact that so much that the milk industry filters out these cells so as to make cows milk easier to drink and more appealing to thier customers. So bottom line is the JWs miss apply these scriptures, period!!!!!
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  Fisherman

  Crazyguy, saying something does not make it so.
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  Crazyguy

  Go look it up!!!!!!!!
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  Fisherman

  Crazyguy, the law did not prohibit drinking milk or having sex with your wife or a woman giving birth to a child. The law forbade Israel from eating dead animals. The provision for restoration in Lev 17 does not invalidate the prohibition. Notice in Deut 14 :21; it says of the foreign resident: "..he may eat.." referring to the dead animal. On the other hand, the same scripture states that Israel was forbidden to eat dead animals. It dos not say that Israel may eat them. Cofty denys this fact. Cofty reads his conclusions about things but does not read the Bible text.
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  cofty

  Why did God allow those not under the law of Moses to eat an unbled carcass when God forbade mankind to eat animals that were not bled? - Fishy

  Not only that, the law permitted Israelites who were under the Law to eat an unbled animal found already dead. The question of why is precisely what I have been answering in detail for the past two years.

  You have yet to offer any possible answer.

  For forty years after permission was given in Lev.17 the verse you keep quoting in Deut,14 did not even exist. Leviticus 17 was not qualifying Deut.14 it was the other way round! This is crucial and you need to deal with it.

  As usual you have completely ignored facts and just keep on repeating the same dogma.