Depression- Duh despair and depression hits all Dfed people even when getting reinstated so what the heck they know about dealing carefully and compassionately. My elder’s sucked at this part.
Porneia- My thoughts exactly (how can you have your genitals manipulated without skin to skin contact)… but maybe they mean through the clothing if one rubs another person that’s porneia. Any kind of excitement between man and woman probably would be wrong to most JW. How boring and a way for JW to be even more secretive.
Rape- I remember when I was drinking and I was at home safe. A dating couple (not very strong JWs) stopped by with a worldly guy friend of theirs to watch movies… and hang out. Well we all were drinking accept one. I had way to many and that guy friend of theirs ended up sleeping me. Heck I wasn’t in my right mind! I admitted to that but I told the elders that he took advantage of the situation, and if they could have some sympathy… That it was a mistake and I would have never let it happen other wise. They had no sympathy since I was Dfed before and committed the same sin! At that moment I was thinking man why did I tell on myself this was not worth getting Dfed for the second time! And that was that I was Dfed. Not quite rape but surely something that took a man who had no respect for a woman and friends that allowed it to all happen! I am upset it all happened!
Opposite Sex- OMG I remember my gay guy friend and I were thinking about moving in together! That was a big no no. But he was gay, what was the harm. We never ever even considered doing it or had that kind of thinking toward each other, he was a girlfriend to me. We were both going to get DF for the first time for different reasons but both our families said this was no good to decide to move in with each other. So instead we had separate apartments and visited each other often because again we were both Dfed and Depressed. Well when the elder asked if I was hanging out with my gay friend I said well yeah. They said if I continue I will not be reinstated and that I need to quit associating with him. OMG he was depressed as far as claiming suicide I couldn’t just abandon him… his family were shunning him and I was all he had. It wasn’t fair!! He couldn’t afford professional help either. I ignored the elders for the most part and besides when I told my friend what my elders said it made him feel even more guilty and he abandon me thinking this was for the better for my situation (since I was about to get reinstated)… I still to this day try and keep in touch and hope his ok but I will never know.
Physically Unclean- OMG I never heard that someone could get Dfed for not being physically unclean… I wonder even if that’s possible. Lol I’m sure someone would go over the person’s house and help them before Dfment would happen.
Gluttony- Ok I don’t see this either. There is an extremely over weight guy at my old hall and he was never Dfed. As far as this being a thing of they have the right to DF… wow that really is a sucky rule because some have a medical problem, like bad thyroid, obesity in it’s self is a disease that needs medical care not DFment. Man they have Dfment for everything as the resolution to their problems! Instead of letting that person just live their lives and have moral support.
I just wonder how long elders wait on Dfing people or if they think we got to get this congregation clean now and DF them the next week! I feel that in most circumstances if they can’t solve the situation in a month they decide to DF. But most serious medical reasons are not taken to consideration like they should and just the situation so the person is Dfed before helped. (From my own experience) Yeah I get punishment is needed as far as someone doing wrong and going according to the need to pay for sins... well did they consider that the emotional abuse or self abuse was punishment enough... Some people just need help and to be listened too.