Bethel Rules

by brotherdan 194 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Coffee House Girl
    Coffee House Girl

    Wow, thanks for this thread- some parts were funny but mostly deeply disturbing- as a "sister" I never held out aspirations to serve at bethel (I was soooo thankful, it did not sound appealing to me). I heard some things about the "rules" from my ex husband who spent six months in Patterson-

    A sweet young kid from my cong went for a year (I always sent him $$ because I knew he had no luxuries there, but I had no idea they had to pay for AC, WTF!), he told me out in service when he got back that it was hard getting used to field service again because the bethelites were too busy in construction/printing work to go out (he hadn't been out in over 8 months) & I thought at the time that it was wrong for the GB to enforce hourly requirements on us regular folks because preaching wk was top priority, yet the mecca discourages service over manual labor-

    I am so glad you all are out of that hell forever

    CHG

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    yeah, bethel people are expected to work saturdays over service?

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt
    yeah, bethel people are expected to work saturdays over service?

    Absolutely. Also, overtime work, which will prevent you from attending congregation meetings. "Bethel comes first" is what they say, over and over.

  • cult classic
    cult classic

    You'd be surprised at how little some of the bethel heavies are involved with the hands on witness stuff... i.e. meetings/field service. They're too busy running things to obey these supposed christian commandments.

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    Wow guys! I left work for the night with a post and came back to a really awesome thread! I actually totally forgot about a couple things. The dressing up for eating was a huge one. I was just a lowly toilet cleaner, so I didn't have to wear a suit to work (I'm surprised they didn't enforce that). So my day was this:

    1. Wake up, shower, get dressed in suit and tie

    2. Finish morning worship,

    3. go to the locker room and change into work clothes

    4. Finish work around 11:45, go back to the locker room and get dressed in suit and tie for lunch

    5. Finish lunch, go back to the locker room and change into work clothes

    6. Finish work about 4:45, go back to the locker room and get dressed in suit and tie for dinner

    7. If there is no meeting that night, go back to my room and get out of those stupid effing dress clothes!

    Also, a note about "gleaning". To those that don't know, at dinner you can go to the dinning room with some tupperware or some sort of container and get some dinner to eat in your room. At 1 point I tried to do this without dressing up. You are only in the dinning room for about 5 mins as you get your food while "gleaning" (why do they use this word?!?!? It's biblical. Basically the rich would let the poor come to their grain fields and "glean" the extra food for themeselves. I guess they viewed us as the poor lowly ones that they allowed to eat their food). Anyway, I got talked to about not dressing up to glean. How ridiculous is that?!?!? I had to dress up to go upstairs and grab some food to go!

    Bethel is the center of the organization. Many of you have pointed out that the cult mentality is seen here more than anywhere else. I totally agree. They would tell us CONSTANTLY that bethel was the perfect preperation for the new system. In the new system we will still be imperfect (for the first few hundred years or so) and have to get along with our brothers under theocratic rule. I re-posted a fictional story that someone wrote about life directly after Armageddon. It's classic. I'll try to find it and re-post on this thread. Most of you have probably read it, but I could TOTALLY forsee this happening if this org was in charge after Armageddon destroyed everyone else. Post soon to come.

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan
    DAY 1
    Well, the Big A is over and I survived. I made my way down to the Kingdom Hall this morning. By the end of the day most of the congregation had gathered at the Hall. Some brothers and sisters are still missing, Ed Thorn, our presiding overseer, told us that those who were missing should have spent more time in field service.
    DAY 2
    Brother Thorn called a special meeting This morning. He announced that he and the other elders would now be assuming full authority over our new community until contact was reestablished with headquarters. All decisions regarding community regulations, living arrangements, work assignments, and other matters would be at the sole discretion of the elders. Sam Greene objected to this dictatorial policy until Thorn pulled out a letter from the Society dated several months ago which stated that, after Armageddon, the local body of elders would be responsible for all decisions until otherwise directed by the Society. Sam voiced no further objections. The rest of us also accepted the new arrangement. The first new rule was not long in coming - all brothers and sisters were required to report to the Kingdom Hall at 8:00 every morning to receive work assignments and other instructions.
    DAY 3
    Brother Thorn has assigned me lo the burial detail. It seems that most of us single brothers have been assigned this unpleasant duty. The dead bodies are already starting to get to me. It sickens me to watch the birds and other animals scavenge the corpses. I actually saw a raven pluck out an eyeball today. Disgusting! Rob Johnson got a bulldozer running and has begun to dig a large common grave. My job is to go around collecting bodies and load them into the back of a pickup truck.
    DAY 4
    We had our first judicial hearing today. Larry and Sue Winters had moved into the McRae mansion in what was once the exclusive Cypress Oaks subdivision. The problem was that Sister Thorn had already had her eye on the place and, as wife of the presiding overseer, she figured that she should have first choice. Brother Thorn told Brother and Sister Winter that they had no right to claim anything without approval of the elders. They were ordered to get out of the house by nightfall. The Winters were very disappointed but they agreed to move out.
    DAY 5
    At the morning meeting, the Thorns announced that they would be moving into the McRae place. The Winters were livid, but they didn't say anything. It was also announced that the surrounding estate homes had been assigned to the other elders. Position has privilege, even in the New World. Some of the brothers have started calling the area "Elder Hill". It was also announced that anyone wanting to appropriate a home must first file a request with the elders. I have decided to stay in my own house. It doesn't seem right to move into someone else's home, even if they were worldly. It makes me sad when I go into someone's house and see the family pictures and personal belongings. Most of the others don't feel this way, it doesn't bother them to loot the dead.
    DAY 8
    The elders announced a new meeting schedule at the morning meeting. On Sunday, we will still have the public talk followed by a study of old Watchtower articles until we get new magazines. On Tuesday night, we will have a congregational book study. The Service Meeting has been canceled (no need for it anymore) along with the Ministry School. They have been replaced by an instructional session to be held on Friday night. This new meeting will instruct us on how to conduct ourselves in the New World Society. The best thing, of course is no more field service!

    DAY 10
    This burial work is taking a heavy toll on me. I can't help but feel saddened at the waste of so much human life. Why couldn't Jehovah have found a way to save more people? The children are the worst, I can't stand to see their little bodies anymore. I don't think I'll report for work tomorrow.
    DAY 11
    I didn't go to work today. Ed Thorn came by later in the morning and asked me why I wasn't at work. I told him I didn't feel well. He told me to gel to work, that everyone feels well all the time in the New World. He also told me that depression, and mental anxiety were things of the past. Of course, he doesn't have to bury the bodies.
    DAY 14
    It's been two weeks now. I really miss things like electricity and running water. I wonder if we'll ever get those things working again. Rob Johnson and I borrowed a generator from the Hall last night and hooked it up to my television and VCR. We had a great time watching some "Star Trek" videos and a tape of last year's Super bowl. I really miss television.

    DAY 15

    At the morning meeting, Brother Thorn publicly reprimanded Rob and I for watching television. The elders have decided that, henceforth. watching videos is prohibited since we do not want our new paradise to be contaminated by the old world. Thorn speculated that one day we might have "theocratic television" from the Society. The Watchtower Channel? Spare me


    DAY 20

    Still no word from the Society. We have spoken to representatives From surrounding congregations but the elders are not allowing anyone to travel. Carol Woods wanted to visit her sister in the next county to see if she made it through okay, but Brother Thorn told her to slay put and be patient. After all, she would have plenty of time to see her sister later. I think that was a cruel thing to say.


    DAY 30

    We finally finished most other the burial work. I am so relieved. The scavenger birds are still hanging around. I have grown to hate the sight of of the fat, disgusting creatures. One of the damn things attracted me today. I guess they have acquired a taste for human flesh.


    DAY 45

    Many other the brothers and sisters are getting sick of being bossed around by the elders. They run things like an old South plantation, we are the slaves. they are the overseers. I have been reassigned to work on the communal farm. It is hard work, but it beats the burial detail. Sam Greene is organizing a committee to speak to the elders about some of the complaints that we all have.


    DAY 47

    The elders found out about Sam Green's attempted "rebellion". At the morning meeting, he was publicly reprimanded and told to pray for a humble spirit. No one is to speak to him until he has shown proper repentance. I can't believe that we are disfellowshipping people in the New World


    DAY 51

    Today a messenger finally arrived from the Society. Wade Peters, a young Bethelite, arrived on horseback. He told us that the Society has moved all headquarters staff to Patterson after the destruction of New York City. We also received the first post-Armageddon Watchtower (now issued quarterly). Many of us had hoped that it would contain information allowing us more personal freedom but we were disappointed to read that we were to keep following the instructions of the local elders until further notice. He also gave the elders a copy of a new procedure manual (titled ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEW WORLD"), but none of us were allowed to see it.


    DAY 69

    My best friend got married today in a shotgun wedding! Rob and Sally Kennedy were discovered together while engaged in a heavy kissing session. Sally's blouse was unbuttoned and Rob had his hand on her exposed breast. After a judicial meeting, Brother Thorn announced that they were now married, without a ceremony or anything! Rob objected strenuously, explaining that he and Sally had not had sex. Brother Thorn, however, declared that the decision was in keeping with the new elder procedure manual. Sally seems happy enough but Rob is in a state of shock. I remember he once told me that he liked Sally's body, but thought that she was as dumb as a box of rocks. Now he is married to her forever. I'll have to remember to keep my hands in my pockets when I date any sisters.


    DAY 80

    The newlyweds are not getting along. There has been a lot of gossip about their horrible spats. Rob confided to me today that he went to the elders in an attempt to get the marriage annulled. They told him that according to the Society's new procedure manual. no divorces or annulments would be allowed for any reason. In addition, all marriages now have to be approved by the local body of elders.


    DAY 81

    Sam Greene was reinstated today. He is still unhappy, but keeps his thoughts to himself now.


    DAY 89

    We are all in a state of shock! Rob committed suicide today. I guess the idea of spending eternity with Sally was not acceptable to him. The elders refused to let us hold a funeral service. I volunteered to bury my friend. Brother Thorn instructed me to bury him in the common grave where we had put the worldly persons. No one came to the grave side, not even his widow. I said a prayer for my friend. I will miss Rob greatly.


    DAY 100

    Life is becoming miserable for many of us. The elders keep placing new rules on us every day. We are told we must lead holy lives of service and submission. No dissent or discussion is allowed. It seems like we had more freedom before Armageddon. I never though I would be nostalgic about the old world


    DAY 111

    I cant take it here anymore. I am going to travel to my brother's place, about a hundred miles from here. Traveling on foot I think I can make it in about five days. I wish I could get gasoline for my car. I'll have to sneak out since the elders still aren't giving anyone permission to travel. I have stored some food and plan to leave tonight after the curfew. I hope my brother is still alive, maybe he will know if Mom and Dad are okay.


    DAY 112

    I made it out of town today. I wonder if They miss me yet? The destruction in the countryside is incredible. How will we ever rebuild everything? I've seen quite a few skeletons already. I guess there Is still a lot of burial work to do before we build a paradise.


    DAY 113

    I ran into a group of brothers from Westview congregation. I was detained at gunpoint! Brother Thorn had gotten word to them to be on the outlook for me. I am furious. Why can't I visit my brother ?


    DAY 114

    Ed Thorn and two ministerial servants arrived today to escort me back "home". They were all carrying guns.


    DAY 115

    After my attempted escape and several other disciplinary problems involving other brothers, the elders have now set up a gun-toting police force. I was, of course, disfellowshipped at the morning meeting. I have been assigned to latrine duty.


    DAY 116

    I was instructed to report to the Kingdom Hall after work for "additional instruction." I saw Sam Greene and a couple of other "troublemaker's" there. We were subjected to an hour of "reindoctrination," mostly the usual crap about maintaining a servants spirit and not to think too much of ourselves. We were told to come back next week for more of the same.


    DAY 123
    I blew up today at the reindoctrination meeting. I told Ed Thorn that I was sick of him acting like a theocratic Hitler. I also told him that I was leaving the community and that he better not try to slop me. My mistake. Thorn called his police force in and had me arrested. I am being detained under armed guard in a makeshift jail cell in the Kingdom Hall basement.
    DAY 124
    My judicial hearing is scheduled for tomorrow. Sam Greene came by to see me. When the guards were out of ear shot, he told me that his efforts to contact the Society about the local elders had done no good. He had been told by the Society to keep quiet and obey the elders without question. Sam is very depressed about this and about my situation.
    DAY 125
    My judicial hearing was held today. Ed Thorn acted as lead prosecutor. I, of course had no defense counsel and could call no witnesses. After the hearing which was held in secret, I was judged guilty of being an unrepentant apostate. I was solemnly informed that according to the Society's instructions (as contained in "ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEW WORLD"), the punishment for apostasy is death by stoning. My execution is scheduled for tomorrow.
    DAY 126
    Well, this is the end. Later today, I will be led out for my execution by stoning. I would rather be shot in the back of the head, but the Society obviously feels that stoning provides a better object lesson. If I get a chance I will throw one of the rocks back at Ed Thorn. The funny thing is that I don't really feel so bad about my impending demise. This New World Society is not my idea of a paradise and I don't want to live with these people for all eternity. From paradise lost to paradise regained to paradise lost again.
    EPILOGUE
    Everyone turned out for my stoning, even the kids. Ed Thorn solemnly pronounced my death sentence and then quoted scripture telling everyone to "not to let their eye feel sorry." No one did. My only regret is that they tied my hands behind my back so that I couldn't return any of their rocks with interest. Not very sporting. The last thing I saw before the lights went out was a sickening smirk on Thorn's face. Then I woke up. In Heaven. And there was St. Peter. "Welcome to Paradise, my child" he said as he gently took my hand. Confused, I said "But I thought paradise was back on Earth with the Witnesses." "No," explained St. Peter, "That was Hell."
  • Essan
    Essan

    I heard - it is hearsay so perhaps others could confirm/deny - but I head years ago that the Brothers in Bethel (London) were told that when they washed their hards they should roll up their sleeves and wash to the elbow. This was said in a talk and the speaker was saying that if certain rules, such as for cleanliness, were applied in Bethel they 'should' be applied by all JW's in their homes, because Bethel does things 'God's way'.

    Why this always stuck in my mind was because I thought this was a rule of the Pharisees, to wash to the elbow, because they had to go further than everyone else to appear more righteous. That's why I was so shocked at this comment, because I was thinking "Don't you know what you are saying? That's what the Pharisees did!"

  • littlebird
    littlebird

    MissyM

    What is Bethel?

    Bethel is the printing facility where they make the watchtower & awake magazines, along with the watchtowers books. Young people, particularly, young men, are encouraged to live and volunteer work hours as part of their service to Jehovah.

    Are you studying with the witnesses Missy?

  • xchange
    xchange

    * "You're wrestling with your roommate in your underwear, and the next thing you know -- YOU'RE A HOMO!" *

    This is too funny! My bud growing up was at Halton Hills for a stint (90's) and he came back with this expression. My circle of friends couldn't get over how hilarious this statement was. Of course I always suspected my bud of being gay... but that's another story - heh. He would say exactly the same phrase with the exception of 'homo'. He would stress it this way: homoSEXual with a twang.

    Ahh... memories.

  • Soldier77
    Soldier77

    This thread is not only classic, it's epic! I've heard all of this stuff through the years as a witness and thank goodness I never ever went to bethel. Someone should do a documentary on the 'inside' bethel experience, imagine the cult-like comparisons would be blatently evident.

    - awesome posts.

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