Perry tried to use another thread to pick on me again. I swear, it's like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4Gj7JsET4&feature=related
Anyway, here's what Perry asked me on the thread about Noah's ark:
OTWO,
I addressed each and every scripture that was offered by you and others regarding rape in the bible. That is a fact. God did not command rape. That is also a fact. You cannot change that fact either. If I have missed ANY scriptural reference that you believe God commanded rape in then send me a IM., and I'll address it.
Here 10,000 scientists protest government interference in global warming science. Will that stop some people from believing in global warming? Of course not. Should we harrass them? Mock them? No. People can believe whatever they want.
So, On The WAy Out... are you going to show me the same courtesy I extended to you and answer a simple question? How do you know if something is true or not?
You spent 12 years as an elder teaching what you now consider to be lies. How can you be so sure in your condemnation of others when you so far can't tell anyone how you know if something is true or not? Weren't you just as sure of yourself when you sat in judgment of others on your judicial committees?
Surely, we all confidently repeated lies, as members of the WT. So how can we figure out if something is true or not now ...without the Watchtower?
Starting out convincing yourself that your crap is a complete answer and mine is not- that is a good way
to have a healthy discussion.
Anyway, you are the one who debates like that so I will just respond in kind.
(I know you are, but what am I!) You are hardly worth debating if links like
http://www.s8int.com/ are what you rely on. It is just as silly as
your comments. It uses ridiculousness as its evidence.
One quote on there is :"RICHARD DAWKINS, Oxford, an evolutionist, "If a single, well verified mammal skull
were to turn up in 500 million year old rocks, our whole modern theory of evolution would be utterly destroyed." I whole-heartedly believe that this is either entirely wrong or just as out of context as WT magazine likes to be.
If it is out of context, it is possible that Dawkins was simply asserting that we would have to come up with a
more accurate "theory of evolution" and not to abandon it and switch to creationism. But whatever. the site is
loaded with garbage. I will answer MORE on how I know something is true or not.
I research, I read, I listen for a consensus among people that make sense and use their minds instead of just
blindly accepting things. Sometimes, I don't know. I do not know if whales are the result of reverse evolution
(mammals going from land to the sea) or if that theory will be discarded. Much of what Darwin has theorized has
already been discarded. I know you think that means that evolution is garbage, but it really only means that
man has admitted that we have found more evidence of "the truth" and the theories of the 19th century don't
fit anymore. Some of the theories of the 21st century will be discarded as more things are discovered.
So, I don't "know" that everything I believe is correct. I know plenty of lies because they are proven false by the
stacks and stacks of evidence. If you look at ridiculous websites that support your beliefs but won't even consider
actual evidence that there couldn't have been a worldwide flood, then good luck with that. I already answered that I do listen to the experts. But that doesn't mean I read one book or watch a few youtubes
and ta-da. I focus mainly on knowing the lies and then what is left is truth. But truth also is rational. There is no
absolute way to prove that God isn't out there, exactly as Perry believes He is. But there is no evidence that Flying
Spaghetti Monster isn't actually the one out there. So truth is that there is no evidence that such unbelievable things
are out there. Truth is that until otherwise proven, we don't need to put effort/faith in either of them. If that isn't the
truth, then my only backup is that God is free to contact me and tell me what to do. Until He does, I am on my own.
You don't know me at all. I did all that I could as an elder to forego judicial committees and let people off the hook.
I learned early on that I might be wrong, but I didn't have the mastery of the ability to let go and overcome fear.
I don't condemn Christians and scoff at their beliefs. But this forum is a place where such debate can take place.
Even here, I only go so far as to condemn the idiocy of those like you, Perry, who boldly declare their beliefs without
considering real evidence. But don't worry. Your own thoughts and links show you for what you are. If I have stated that you do damage to
newbies, I apologize. People can see through your closed mind as well as I can.
