Health Care Reform Bill Passes - Now What?

by BizzyBee 118 Replies latest jw friends

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    If the Senate doesn't pass the House 'Reconciliation Bill', with it's many amendments/tweaks/changes, we are left with the Senate bill. The Senate bill is a monster.

    Here is Keith Olbermann's commentary on the Senate bill. He calls it a, "Medical Mobster Protection Racket", "immoral". He calls on everyone to not buy the mandated insurance. "No single-payer, no sale. No public option, no sale. No Medicare buy-in, no sale."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjx1ROUz-jc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOVUyA5jaME

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    The Senate bill is a monster.

    Which is exactly why I'm ill at ease; I rejoice with trepidation.

    Sylvia

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    BizzyBee:

    Health Care Reform Bill Passes - Now What?

    One of the next items on the agenda is providing a "path to citizenship" for millions of illegal immigrants. This should be at least as popular as Health Care Reform with the minority party.

  • leavingwt
  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Michael Moore tells Republicans to keep their chins up. . .

    Thanks to last night's vote, that child of yours who has had asthma since birth will now be covered after suffering for her first nine years as an American child with a pre-existing condition.

    Thanks to last night's vote, that 23-year-old of yours who will be hit one day by a drunk driver and spend six months recovering in the hospital will now not go bankrupt because you will be able to keep him on your insurance policy.

    Thanks to last night's vote, after your cancer returns for the third time -- racking up another $200,000 in costs to keep you alive -- your insurance company will have to commit a criminal act if they even think of dropping you from their rolls.

    . . .

    If it's any consolation, the thieves who run the health insurance companies will still get to deny coverage to adults with pre-existing conditions for the next four years. They'll also get to cap an individual's annual health care reimbursements for the next four years. And if they break the pre-existing ban that was passed last night, they'll only be fined $100 a day! And, the best part? The law will require all citizens who aren't poor or old to write a check to a private insurance company. It's truly a banner day for these corporations.

    So don't feel too bad. We're a long way from universal health care. Over 15 million Americans will still be uncovered -- and that means about 15,000 will still lose their lives each year because they won't be able to afford to see a doctor or get an operation. But another 30,000 will live. I hope that's ok with you.

    . . .

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/22/849024/-The-Great-Thing-About-the-Health-Care-Law-That-Has-Passed-It-Will-Save-Republican-Lives,-Too

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    Here's to Teddy: HCR has been "the passion of my life"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrJVbCzJH6c

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    So, those last two posts seem to indicate that the very hard left really does not like this bill at all?

    For sure, practically all Republicans do not like it at all - and a majority of moderate independents polled that they disapproved of it.

    I am starting to wonder exactly who does like this? (besides the slim majority in the house that barely passed it and of course, Obama)

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Details of the road ahead. . .

    . . .

    Here's where it gets tricky. Obama on Tuesday will sign the Senate-passed bill, clearing the way procedurally for Senators to begin debate on the reconciliation fix. The whole thing made House Democrats very nervous since that meant trusting the Senate would actually fix the bits they didn't like. But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid showed House Democrats a letter signed by members of his caucus proving they had the votes to pass the reconciliation measure on an up-or-down vote. That paved the way for Sunday night's House victory. Still with me?

    The Senate parliamentary rules are that a reconciliation measure cannot be considered unless it is actually reconciling existing law. So Obama has to sign the bill before debate can start in the upper chamber. Senators have indicated they will start debate right after Obama signs the measure, and House Democrats said Sunday night they think the matter can be wrapped up within the week.

    But the Senate is the Senate, and is usually about as fast as molasses. Reconciliation rules do limit the time for debate and prevent the type of filibuster that's become standard GOP practice over the last year, but it may be optimistic to think things will move along at a speedy pace. We're not sure yet.

    In a statement last night, Reid said the Senate was preparing to "complete its work." Senate Democrats are planning an afternoon press conference Monday with Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) and several doctors and nurses groups to showcase what is in the health care reform legislation.

    Republicans for weeks have suggested they might throw up blockades known as points of order during the reconciliation debate, but we're not sure yet how serious that threat might be. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC), one of the most conservative lawmakers, said yesterday he will introduce legislation this week to repeal what he called a "health takeover." He claims the measure is unconstitutional.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/not-over-yet-senate-must-finalize-health-care.php?ref=fpblg

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt
    So, those last two posts seem to indicate that the very hard left really does not like this bill at all?
    For sure, practically all Republicans do not like it at all - and a majority of moderate independents polled that they disapproved of it.
    I am starting to wonder exactly who does like this? (besides the slim majority in the house that barely passed it and of course, Obama)

    The House reconcilitation tweaks are supposed to make the Senate bill more desirable. Also, some of the pork will be stripped out.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Crap medicine, waiting times at the doctors, not being able to take the remedies you want, Codex Alimentarius being closer to full implementation, legislation regulating many devices as "medical devices" like white noise generators and exercise machines, and having to learn what "vigintillion" means (it will be the unit of the budget deficit). And, $200,000 sheets of toilet paper.

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