Another Scotsman reporting for duty :)

by cofty 55 Replies latest jw friends

  • cofty

    Hi all, its time I stopped lurking around here. I've been posting at JWS for just over a year, I know a few names here and it looks like there is lots of good banter going on.

    I am a second generation, born-in who grew up in west-central Scotland. I pioneered in Edinburgh and later married and settled in Berwick just south of the border. I was an elder from my late twenties and was enjoying life in the borg fast lane until they went and changed the whole "generation" thing. To be honest it wasn't the change that derailed me as much as the way they treated us all like idiots over the whole thing.

    I took a close look at Matt 24 etc and especially at the meaning of "parousia". Having discovered their mistake (haha) I wrote up my very respectful thoughts and posted them to London. Not sure what I was expecting but the knighthood never arrived. My fellow elders got a letter telling them to tell me to wait on jehoobah. Anyway - long story short - I sent it to Brooklyn and waited and waited and waited (still waiting)

    Once the first domino falls the rest are only a matter of time. I started researching blood and other topics. Eventually I resigned as an elder and began to fade. At this point I was avoiding all "apostate" stuff and only researching the bible and wt publications. Meantime my loving in-laws, (is cursing discouraged around here?) reported me to London for a private conversation we had about why we were no longer going to meetings. I was summoned to a judicial and df'd around christmas 1996. The chairman of the committee had spent many hours talking to me about these things in previous weeks and months and had openly admitted to me that he agreed the borg were wrong on some important issues - hypocrite!

    Like many ex-witnesses I naturally assumed that the core of what I had always believed must be true and so I began to investigate the church. I came to understand the fundamental difference between the WT "ransom" and the christian gospel and felt I had discovered something I had always been looking for. I began to attend a baptist church and eventually got baptised again. I was as enthusiastic and committed a christian as I suppose it is possible to be. I volunteered for Reachout Trust for a while giving talks to other churches about how to talk to dubs and helping some on a one-to-one in our region. Eventually I was giving sermons in church and when the pastor left I was part of a leadership team, preaching and leading worship.

    About 8 years later I began to doubt whether god really did listen to and answer prayers. A tragedy involving a friend at church left me feeling disillusioned and wondering if I was making the same excuses for god that I had previously made for the borg. Me and god stopped speaking. On 26th December 2004 I was driving to play in a charity football match (soccer) when I heard on the car radio about the Asian tsunami. Me and god were finished.

    My parents are still in the borg and to be honest that's probably best for them. We have two children, a son in the RAF and a daughter at school. I spend a lot of my time coaching football and following a host of other interests. My views on god have been taking shape constantly over the years since 96 and I would now describe myself as an atheist but I'm sure I will say more about that later.

    Look forward to getting to know more of you.

  • beksbks

    Welcome Cofty!!! Good to see you here!

  • leavingwt

    Welcome to these parts!


  • iknowall558

    From one Scot to another....Welcome !

  • flipper

    COFTY- It is so great to have you over here my friend ! I always have enjoyed your posts at JWS ( when I'm over there ) and I'm sure you will bring a lot of colorful commentary and insight to this board as well ! Seems like you have been through quite a journey exiting the JW cult like myself and many of the rest of us. Well, welcome, pull up a chair, have your favorite cocktail and enjoy the ride ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • awildflower

    Hi welcome! I have always found it interesting that the one's , like myself and obviously you, who studied the wt literature extensively are the one's who find what's wrong with it and leave! It's always something different for each of us. It wasn't a doctrinal thing for me as much as the lack of love and proof of God's spirit where they said it was suppose to be. But all my years of studying helped me to make a great defense about the doctrinal stuff when I needed to. I just walked away a year ago with my un-baptized kids. We have been so much better for it. Like you, in the beginning, I truly still felt like I believed in God, and Jesus as his son and everlasting life. But now, a year later, I think much differently. I'm more on an intuition and spirituality kick, reading the likes of Gregg Braden, Eckhart Tolle and Wayne Dyer. But I'll tell you, I've learned more about spirituality and how it really works, in the last year verses my whole life in the org! Spirituality is not based on a religion, it can be, but doesn't have to be. In my opinion, the farther you get from organized anything, the more you tap into real spirituality. You have a lot of growth but just remember, your where you are because you are suppose to be. It's all part of your journey. Embrace each part of it. Glad your here. I've learned soooooo much on this board and made some friends to!

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  • slimboyfat

    crofty I was never an elder or anywhere near, but I have some things in common with you!

    1) Scottish (west-central even - shh don't tell the elders. If they ask, I'm in Afghanistan)
    2) had doubts about the generation change (then I guess most people did)
    3) I had contact with the Reachout Trust while I was working out my doubts (mainly arguing with then - attended one of the conventions and met Doug, Mike, Vince, Gordon and others)
    4) the tsunami was probably the last straw for me too as far as belief in God is concerned (made this comment a few days ago):

    The tsunami of 2004 was perhaps the last straw for me as far as God is concerned.
    I saw an interesting programme the other day that suggested the earthquake in Lisbon in 1755 influenced Enlightenment thinkers to reject the idea of a loving God interested in man's affairs.

  • BurnTheShips

    Alba gu brath!


  • chickpea

    welcome to the boards, crofty

    ït is always interesting and
    gratifying to read successful
    escape stories... true enough
    none get out unscathed, but
    if, at the end of the day, you
    are engaged in living, instead
    of waiting to live in "paradise",
    then i think that gets counted
    as successful


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