The struggle against the immediae danger from false teachers

by mrsjones5 196 Replies latest jw friends

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Copy and pasting doesn't mean or even show that you understand what you are copying and pasting, on the contrary it seems.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    May you have peace!

    An excellent post Aquest, even if some points are, wel, debateable.

    If you don't mind, may I ask, which points?

    I am curious as to the 10 days after the rose he entered the Kingdom of heaven part, explain please?

    First of all, thank you for asking, as I seriously misspoke... with regard to the 10 day/40 day periods. I swtiched the two (I have a plethora of errands to run today… and was rushing, trying to get out of the house. But I saw pjschipper's responses and, well, sat down).

    Initially, was going just going to say I got the 10 days confused with the 40 days. BUT… my Lord said that wasn't quite right - there was more. Here is what I heard:

    P er "christian" theology, it is taught that my Lord appeared to his disciples for 40 days after rising (Acts 1:8), then ascended, and 10 days later... on the day of "Pentecost"... he poured out holy spirit on his disciples. Per my Lord, this is inaccurate.

    The word that I hear from him is that although he did appear to his disciples for 40 days after his rising, he poured out holy spirit ONE WEEK (i.e., seven days) later… on the day of the Jewish Festival of Weeks, which occurred on the 50th day after the beginning of the Passover… on Nisan 14… and NOT on the 50th day after his resurrection.

    So, now I know.

    I hope this helps, and again, thank you for asking.

    Oh, and no, no mushrooms. A beer or glass of red wine from time to time, but that's pretty much it.

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Since it's now a cut and paste free for all:

    Romans 14
    The Weak and the Strong
    1 Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2 One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

    5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

    9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11 It is written:
    " 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
    'every knee will bow before me;
    every tongue will confess to God.' " [a] 12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

    13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14 As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food [b] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15 If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16 Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.

    19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.

    22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    PJS, above post...human reasoning, and irrelevant. Apply the WTs same reasoning on pinatas to this. Does the anicent origin still have any meaning? Do you know anyone who celebrates Saturnalia? The Christians countered a pagan observation with one of their own, and one out. You need to read and ponder Roamns ch 14 in its entirety boy.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    AQuest,

    Thanks for your reply and your sense of Humour.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Well, Christians perhaps chose to make a pagan celebration their own !!
    The shock !!

    Like making a pagan water ritual a baptizim?

    Like making a pagan wedding symbol ( ring) a christian one?

    Like celebrating a special day once a year (anniversary) like pagan's did far before anyone else did?

    I can go on, but why bother, afterall, it wasn't cut and pasted.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Besides, since Christams was celebrated in Bethel after 1919, when Jesus has decided that only the WT was doing the true will of God, then I guess Jesus didn't have a problem with that, did he?

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    PSAc, Jesus had no problem with it but Rutherford did, because he felt it gave undue honor to Jesus.

    Interestingly, in a WT which explained the Babylonish captivity, it listed the celebration of Christmas as one of the marks that got the Internat'l bible Students sent away for cleansing. Yet, they came out and got appointed while still celebrating this for another 10 years!

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    correction: this was listed as a taint in Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, page 91. Perhaps someone has a scan?

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Ah, Rutherford, he makes the pope look like a saint, LMAO !!

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