miseryloveselders: Dexter only kills to save lives. <------ You sort of have to watch a season or two to get it.
Is our culture headed in the right direction with shows like Dexter? I'm not judging, just thinking out loud.
Dexter is no more a harbinger of the future of society than is Breaking Bad (which is another excellent production that's pushing the envelope). Now some of the video games our kids are playing ...
Season five of Dexter was not up to standard. It was perhaps Michael C. Hall's cancer that took the edge off his performance or maybe it was the writing. Some of the episodes were improbable to the point of being incredulous. I predict Season six will be the last.
I love Dexter too :)
People have always loved anti-heros, especially when they have a past that explains who they are.
Misery he's the anti serial killer. He's the cure for what infects them.
I understand where you are coming from, and Dexter taken on the upper level is disturbing. For that matter, it often disturbed me. But here is the thing. I find that taking an ironic view of things works my intellect in an interesting way. No one would argue that taking on a Dexter role would be the "right" thing to do, but considering some of the ideas that the show looks at makes me think. Coming from my fundamental background, GOOD AND EVIL was oh so very clear. But you know what, GOOD AND EVIL, is quite a bit more relative than that.
Think about the Iraelites committing genocide against the Canaanites. This was always GOOD to me, ordained by god. I don't think the Canaanites thought so. But god had GOOD REASON for what he commanded. These people sacrificed CHILDREN. Of course, killing Canaanites also meant killing Canaanite children, thereby saving them from POSSIBLY dying for religion, to DEFINTIELY dying for religion. Naturally though, the god was not guilty of such horrible evilness when he killed David's son, because after all DAVID deserved it, because David had broken the god's law. But ask the dead baby. So, DEXTER, perhaps in a god-like role, takes out evil people that hurt children, (he NEVER hurts children--but, according to scripture, god did) and other innocent people and he ends them. To those people, that was a bad thing.
But Julia Stiles character was unique, because she had been deeply hurt by serial killers. She was not a killer. Well, she was, but only to put herself back together. And she saw Dexter as a hero, even though she recognized his darkness, and knew, she couldn't live with it once she was past her crisis.
So, it's just a tv show, but it has chosen subjects that are intriguing. The same people that told me I shouldn't watch such trash, looked at pictures of dead and dying bodies being piled in a final war. They put their children to bed after showing them pictures of babies drowning in god's righteous flood.
Think about Sodom and Gomorrha (sp) All the men, from old man to young boy demanded to have sex with angels. It was pointed out in WT, that the "young boys" was evidence of child molestation, cuz young boys aren't prone to demanding sex with grown men. So their destruction was WARRANTED, this was a horrible place. And of course, the victiims, the young boys, went down with the city.
So, one could question the motive of god, just as one can question the motive of Dexter. But in the end, the question is, is there "righteous" killing, and who gets to decide? A god who kills innocent children along with guilty adults, or a serial killer that would never hurt a child?
As an atheist, I'm pretty sure that no one will jump on a vigilante mission to kill wrong doers after watching Dexter. However, I'm pretty sure that after reading the bible, many are moved to do just that. And even if they would not act on it, they will gleefully preach from door-to-door the imminent death of all who you love--and this is the good news.
Yup absolutely love it can't wait for this years new shows. Michael C Hall is great loved him in Six Feet Under as well. Did you know that Deborah his sister on the show is his real life wife? I just realized that stuck in
Think about Sodom and Gomorrha (sp) All the men, from old man to young boy demanded to have sex with angels. It was pointed out in WT, that the "young boys" was evidence of child molestation, cuz young boys aren't prone to demanding sex with grown men. So their destruction was WARRANTED, this was a horrible place.
yeah, great story. So Lot says to the hoard outside, Hey guys, please don't try to bugger my guests. Gang rape my virgin daughters instead. Luckily, the guests use their magical powers and strike the would-be buggerers blind. That'll teach them. But Lot and his family still have to hightail it out of Dodge because the fire and brimstone's coming. Don't look back, 'though, says God. But Lot's wife, being the curious woman she is, has to sneek a peek and Shazam! God turns her into a hunk of salt. Mess with Me, willya? says God. So, anyway, Lot and what's left of his family - the two virgin girls he was offering up to the horny crowd - camp out in the wilderness, Lot gets into his cups and screws one of his daughters, getting her pregnant. He must have thought that was ok because he does a repeat performance with the other daughter the next night. Such a wonderful, delightful, family-oriented morality lesson. It makes Dexter look righteous by comparison.
Its just a tv show. Its not advocating vigilantism - or serial killers. Its just a show, and I find it extremely interesting to watch Dexter and listen to his inner monologue (as he is a sociopath and doesn't experience emotion the same as others), because he's often so off-the-wall.
Lion Cask - Lots daughters get him drunk so they can have sex with him... there is a reason they had to get him drunk first. He would have been unwilling otherwise.
What does it say about our culture today, that a serial killer is the hero ... Is our culture headed in the right direction with shows like Dexter?
LOL... I know you didn't mean it this way, but damn if that didn't read like it was right out of an assembly script...
I've heard pretty much that same argument used from the Society about violent movies/books/etc. What I didn't get until I was free of the cult-think was that the WTS looks at adult themed movies/shows/books as if all JWs are children. You don't want kids watching Dexter or other shows that may feature violence because they don't understand the context.
While some shows/movies/books may feature violence or allude to it they are really social commentaries. Many of the shows/movies/books that the WTS counseled against on the basis of violence or sex wasn't because of the violence or sex, it was because they show/movie/book was intended to make you think, or at least put yourself in the other person's shoes. Sometimes it was meant to upset your sensibilities. Now the WTS can't have that. The sensibilities they've worked so hard to instill in their sheeple must be protected. So condemn it on the basis of "being babes to badness"...as if all JWs were children to be protected from the big bad real world.