by Justitia Themis 106 Replies latest social physical
How is the government overstepping its bounds by refusing to sell 100mph+ bikes to people who have no
legal use for them?
Exactly, no one is saying if you want a 230 MPH bike and can afford it you can't have it. But you can't use it on public roads without a speed limiter installed. Like I said early there is no reason short of an illegal or very unlikely reason to go above 100 MPH on a public road.
With the right process, I would imagine it is possible to legally buy a poisonous cobra....
Should you be allowed to take your pet cobra for a slither down by the playground?
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As a former crotch rocket rider, I would say that the impact may have been 120 mph difference. When riding a "go faster" bike, 120 m.p.h. (200 kph) does not seem fast at all. If he had a superbike, he might have been hitting speeds in the 170-180 m.p.h. range. It looks like he was attempting to go around the semi, but didn't change lanes fast enough. It is amazing how quickly slow things come up at you at that speed. There had to be a lot of inertia to slam a head through a steel trailer!
JK
Wow, 180 MPH is just insane!
Excerpts from Police report:
"Upon my arrival, Tulsa Police officers, EMSA and Fire Department personnel were already on scene. Both vehicle [sic] involved were still at their points of rest. Traffic was being divided away from the scene by closing down all lanes of south bound traffic at 8100 S. Hwy 169. The majority of Veh 1 was sitting against a concrete median in the inside lane. The rest of it was scattered among a debris field made up of Unit 1, which measured approximately 1 quarter mile long. Unit 2 was parked on the outside shoulder and off the road. Driver of Unit 2 was outside of his vehicle and was filling out witness statement (see attached). Driver of Unit 1 was deceased and was hanging from the rear of trailer Unit 2.
"Driver of Unit 2 stated that he was in the middle inside land [sic] and had been since 2100 S. Hwy. 169 SB. As he was driving south, he felt a large jolt and heard a bang. He then observed a motorcycle skid past him and slid [sic] into the cement divider. Driver of Unit 2 then pulled over to see what had happened. As he got out of his vehicle, he began to walk around and check his vechicle. As he rounded the rear of the vehicle, he observed a body hanging from the trailer door."
"Witness Jody Chesmore advised that he was standing at the cement divider on the north bound side of Hwy 169. He observed a motorcycle go southbound at a rate of speed with [sic] he estimated to be 120 MPH. He watched the motorcycle as it continued south and heard it throttle down observed it's [sic] brake light come on and heard a loug bang. He then got into his vehicle, turned around and drove toward the area of the impact. He observed the motorcycle lying aginst the median and a body hanging from the rear of the trailer on unit 2."
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With the right process, I would imagine it is possible to legally buy a poisonous cobra....
You can BTW in fact near my house some was mawed by a pet panther or some big cat I forget it was a decade ago.
Nobody said anything about snakes. I never said that you should be allowed to ride recklessly on the road. I don't beleive the untrained should carry around dynamite.
I do not want any governmental entity to throttle my legally purchased vehicle, even though I may never, and indeed have no intention of, going at an insane speed while riding it. IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND?
Helmets make cleanup easier.
IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND?
Apparently not.
Don't get me wrong... I understand the basic core feeling inspiring such an opinion.
Honestly, I sympathize, and struggle with such issues myself. I am much torn between socialist and libertarian values.
The small-government, semi anarchic, "fuck the man" part of me totally gets what you are saying, and when New Hampshire
puts "live free or die" on their license plates and eschews seatbelt and motorcycle helmet law, a big part of me cheers.
At the same time, I can't help feeling that when an illegal and dangerous-to-OTHER-people action can be made
IMPOSSIBLE by government edict, that brings up very serious ethical problems that I struggle with.
I think you might actually be able to convert me, so please don't give up yet. I may actually be closer to your
side than I appear.
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I see your point inkling. I think it means so much to me because riding has been such a part of my past, and I recoil at anybody trying to change it with rules like this. I know that there are people who don't need to be riding 170 HP superbikes, but I beleive alot of these same people could manage to kill or maim themselves on just about anything they threw a leg over. I guess what I need to say is, ride with respect for the law, respect for other drivers, wear at least a helmet if not more gear, and most of all, ride safely.
