Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants?

by nvrgnbk 73 Replies latest members politics

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    It does get ridiculous, doesn't it Humper?

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    nvrgnbk..I`ve never had the dish`s you mention..I`ve travelled..And..I know good Mexican Food.....You don`t find alot of it up here..I`m trained in Classical French Cuisine..I can cook..Does anyone have an Authentic Classic:"Mexican Beef Enchilada Recipe?"..Thanks!...OUTLAW

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    tacos al pastor

    (thing) by baffo (13 hr) (print) ? 1 C!Thu Dec 07 2000 at 23:24:18

    A Mexican delicacy, invented some thirty years ago in Mexico City .

    tacos al pastor are invariably eaten in a restaurant, because to make them you need a vertical broiler , which nobody has at home.

    The meat is pork, seasoned with red stuff that I assume to be achiote. Slice upon slice of meat is impaled upon the vertical spit, which is then topped with a whole pineapple and occasionally an onion.
    The spit is then mounted in the vertical broiler, and the cooking process begins. As the outer layer of the huge ball of meat (it is actually called la bola) roasts, the cook (actually a specialized guy, called el pastorero) trims off the cooked bits and collects them in something that resembles a dustpan.

    The complete taco employs tortillitas: the pastorero

    • dips briefly the tortillita in the drip pan (didn't I mention that the meat is quite fatty and releases large amounts of fat ?)
    • slices off meat on the tortillita
    • slashes at the pineapple (which is also cooking) and catches the falling slice with the tortillita.
    The taco is then served with raw chopped onion, cilantro, hot sauce , and lime. Since the individual taco is quite small, you can easily eat five. Or ten. Especially if you are drinking Negra Modelo .

    One of the best places for tacos al pastor in Mexico City is called El Tizoncito, and it is actually a local mini-chain of restaurants. Also very good is El rincón de la lechuza on Miguel Angel de Quevedo . Another tasty one is Charly II on Av. San Fernando in Tlalpan.


    I noded this delicate low-fat, low-cholesterol, vegetarian food item in the plural because you can never eat just one taco al pastor.
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  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Tacos de Lengua

    Submitted by: Jaymes

    Keywords: Mexican, Crock Pot

    1-lb (or so) beef tongue
    5small cloves garlic (or 3 large ones), smashed & chopped
    1 onion, quartered
    salt & pepper to

    Rinse tongue, pat dry, season well with salt and pepper.

    Allow it to sit about 15 minutes for the seasonings to penetrate a little.

    Put it in crockpot and add water (or half water/half beer) to cover.

    Add garlic and onions to water. Cook on "high" for 4-5 hours.

    Turn crockpot setting down to Low. Turn tongue over and add more water if necessary. Continue cooking on low until tongue is done (skin hard, inside soft).

    Remove tongue and skin it (discard skin). Chop meat finely.

    Serve immediately with "fixin's" - like corn tortillas, lime wedges, pico de gallo, avocado slices, chopped cilantro, onions, jalapenos, salsa...etc.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    I guess I owe myself an apology for hijacking my own thread.

    All is forgiven!

  • zagor
    zagor
    Let's say I break into your house.

    Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave.

    Completely agree with you, were it not for the fact that "hypothetical householder" you are talking about here used his dominance to keep all of his neighborhood in utter poverty for years and then complain about it when they had enough and started entering in his house to be able to feed their children.

    Do you know how many dictators and at that US-business friendly dictators and puppets did US of A supported for, what a hell, let say last 90 year all across the South America in places such as Cuba, Chile, Venezuela, Brazil, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Ecuador, Dominican Republic, Uruguay, .... they only left when resource was either completely depleted or when out of utter desperation people allowed some internal moron who was promising something, anything, better to take charge.

    Of course, by that time infrastructure was in utter ruins and country in debts to its nostrils. And you know who is paying the price? Those simple 'stupid illegals' you are talking about. We still charge them with moral obligation to look after and feed their children in THEIR countries. And when they can't "oh well tough luck we can't save the world" never mind it didn't stop our own democratically chosen leaders in charge to plunder the world for years on end.

    But I agree with you people should be able to do it in their countries it is just that we have moral obligation to give back what we've taken with interest and rebuild those places SUFFICIENTLY enough so that they become sustainable economically and in every other sense.

    Irish people had to flee for over two centuries across the pond until they now have a proud country of their own economically stable, perhaps one of the best kept secrets in Europe. It took all these year to rebuild it. How much longer do you think do we have obligation to rebuilt places we deliberately screwed for good? Well I'll let you do your own math on that...and no mere pittance help they send when cameras of the world is watching is not enough. Thank you for your attention

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    For insight into zagor's many interesting and accurate points, may I suggest the following read?:

    John Charles Chasteen

    Born in Blood and Fire

    A Concise History of Latin America

    A concise, integrated, chronological narrative—includes all the high points of Latin American history while exploring its complexities.

    This amazingly brief history of Latin America will delight any reader. Fully informed by the latest scholarship, this cleverly written survey spans six centuries and covers twenty countries. John Charles Chasteen presents a compelling narrative of the Latin American experience, animated by stories about men and women from all walks of life, and enriched by insightful analysis. The famous and not so famous characters of Latin America are here: Cortés, Malinche, Moctezuma, Sister Juana Ines de la Cruz, Bolivar, Father Manuel Hidalgo, Juan and Eva Peron, and, of course, Che Guevara. This is a story of despair and hope, the processes of conquest and colonization, race mixing and class construction, revolution and republic formation, and the elusive quests for sustained economic growth and political and social equality.

    This beautifully written concise history will be valuable for general readers and college students for many years to come.

    "This is a superb survey that draws well on recent scholarship. Chasteen is an amusing, concise, knowledgeable tour guide, who takes the reader on a personally conducted tour of a complex, fascinating place." —Walter LaFeber, Cornell University, author of Inevitable Revolutions: The United States in Central America

    John Charles Chasteen is associate professor of history at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. He is the highly acclaimed translator of Tulio Halperin Donghi's monumental work (published in Spanish) The Contemporary History of Latin America. He is also the author of Heroes on Horseback: The Life and Times of the Last Gaucho Caudillos.
  • zagor
    zagor

    lol, thank you nevergoingback ;) good topic, bound to cause controversy :)

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk
    lol, thank you nevergoingback ;) good topic, bound to cause controversy :)

    No really. It's a great book zagor. Anyone attempting to understand the complexities of this issue should read it. One cannot understand a people without understanding their history.

  • Vernon Williams
    Vernon Williams

    No one is pushing for this more than the Roman Church...from what I have read....

    V

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