Governing Body Member Stephan Lett Lies On JW.TV

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  • Muddy Waters
    Muddy Waters
    Hm. If I were still a practicing JW, I would be wondering how in the world the GB even knew what apostates are saying....
  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    By Lett's statement is he then accusing the courts in California reviewing the Candace Conti case as apostates?

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Or maybe these court cases are happening by virtue of the harm the WTS's internal policies are causing individuals who were involved in the JW religious organization ?

    Or maybe he's just a lying corrupt propagandist for the Watchtower Corporation ?

  • sir82
    sir82

    By Lett's statement is he then accusing the courts in California reviewing the Candace Conti case as apostates

    Not only that, he is calling them lying apostates. As well as all the news sources which have reported the matter.

  • defender of truth
    defender of truth

    To Mr Lett..

    This article by an investigative reporter must be full of apostate lies then?

    Or just the facts..?

    http://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-use-1st-amendment-to-hide-child-sex-abuse-claims/

  • daringhart13
    daringhart13

    I'd say the fact that he claims he 'just knows' he is going to heaven to judge us....... pretty much makes anything else he says a moot point.

    Lunatic.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Look what the bible says about liars ......

    God Hates Liars

    Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV / 148 helpful votes

    There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

    Proverbs 12:22 ESV / 114 helpful votes

    Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.

    Revelation 21:8 ESV / 55 helpful votes

    But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV / 52 helpful votes

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    Exodus 20:16 ESV / 29 helpful votes

    “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

    Ephesians 4:15 ESV / 26 helpful votes

    Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ,

    Proverbs 13:5 ESV / 23 helpful votes

    The righteous hates falsehood, but the wicked brings shame and disgrace.

    Revelation 21:27 ESV / 18 helpful votes

    But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.

    John 8:31-32 ESV / 15 helpful votes

    So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

    James 1:19 ESV / 14 helpful votes

    Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger;

    1 Corinthians 6:9 ESV / 14 helpful votes

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

    James 3:1-18 ESV / 12 helpful votes

    Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body. If we put bits into the mouths of horses so that they obey us, we guide their whole bodies as well. Look at the ships also: though they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs. So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things. How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! ...

    Psalm 127:1 ESV / 12 helpful votes

    A Song of Ascents. Of Solomon. Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Unless the Lord watches over the city, the watchman stays awake in vain.

    1 Kings 22:22 ESV / 12 helpful votes

    And the Lord said to him, ‘By what means?’ And he said, ‘I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And he said, ‘You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do so.’

    John 14:6 ESV / 10 helpful votes

    Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    Revelation 1:1-20 ESV / 9 helpful votes

    The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near. John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood ...

    2 Timothy 3:15 ESV / 9 helpful votes

    And how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

    Romans 1:26-27 ESV / 9 helpful votes

    For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    Luke 2:52 ESV / 9 helpful votes

    And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.

    Psalm 11:1-7 ESV / 9 helpful votes

    To the choirmaster. Of David. In the Lord I take refuge; how can you say to my soul, “Flee like a bird to your mountain, for behold, the wicked bend the bow; they have fitted their arrow to the string to shoot in the dark at the upright in heart; if the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?” The Lord is in his holy temple; the Lord's throne is in heaven; his eyes see, his eyelids test the children of man. The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence. ...

    1 Samuel 16:7 ESV / 9 helpful votes

    But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

    Ephesians 6:11 ESV / 8 helpful votes

    Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.

    Ephesians 4:29 ESV / 8 helpful votes

    Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

    Galatians 6:4 ESV / 8 helpful votes

    But let each one test his own work, and then his reason to boast will be in himself alone and not in his neighbor.

    Galatians 2:20 ESV / 8 helpful votes

    I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

    2 Corinthians 5:17 ESV / 8 helpful votes

    Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

    Matthew 7:12 ESV / 8 helpful votes

    “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

    Deuteronomy 24:1-4 ESV / 8 helpful votes

    “When a man takes a wife and marries her, if then she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, and she departs out of his house, and if she goes and becomes another man's wife, and the latter man hates her and writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, or if the latter man dies, who took her to be his wife, then her former husband, who sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after she has been defiled, for that is an abomination before the Lord. And you shall not bring sin upon the land that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance.

    Revelation 1:1-15 ESV / 7 helpful votes

    The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near. John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood ...

    Ephesians 6:12 ESV / 7 helpful votes

    For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

    Ecclesiastes 6:11 ESV / 7 helpful votes

    The more words, the more vanity, and what is the advantage to man?

    1 Peter 3:15 ESV / 6 helpful votes

    But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

    Romans 1:27 ESV / 6 helpful votes

    And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    Matthew 5:1-48 ESV / 6 helpful votes

    Seeing the crowds, he went up on the mountain, and when he sat down, his disciples came to him. And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying: “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. ...

    Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 ESV / 6 helpful votes

    Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! Again, if two lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm alone? And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand him—a threefold cord is not quickly broken.

    Ecclesiastes 3:8 ESV / 6 helpful votes

    A time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.

    Psalm 7:11 ESV / 6 helpful votes

    God is a righteous judge, and a God who feels indignation every day.

    Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 6 helpful votes

    You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

    Revelation 12:10 ESV / 5 helpful votes

    And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God.

    Colossians 4:5 ESV / 5 helpful votes

    Walk in wisdom toward outsiders, making the best use of the time.

    Galatians 2:5 ESV / 5 helpful votes

    To them we did not yield in submission even for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you.

    1 John 1:7 ESV / 4 helpful votes

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

    Romans 1:32 ESV / 4 helpful votes

    Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

    Matthew 6:34 ESV / 4 helpful votes

    “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

    Proverbs 11:1-31 ESV / 4 helpful votes

    A false balance is an abomination to the Lord, but a just weight is his delight. When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the humble is wisdom. The integrity of the upright guides them, but the crookedness of the treacherous destroys them. Riches do not profit in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death. The righteousness of the blameless keeps his way straight, but the wicked falls by his own wickedness. ...

    Ephesians 5:5 ESV / 3 helpful votes

    For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

  • flipper
    flipper
    FINKELSTEIN- You make a very good point that " JW elders and WT lawyers do not have the expertise to psychologically evaluate individuals who are mentally encased with particular sociological behavior. " Yeah, I totally agree. The GB can't even figure themselves out let alone evaluate other humans behavior- least of all determine who is a predator or who is not. Hell- WT leaders are predators themselves when you really sit back and analyze it. They prey on unsuspecting families by coercing JW's to shun family and coerce elders and others to stay silent regarding child abuse in the congregations- thus causing proliferation of felony child abuse to continue. Can't get much more predatory than that
  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Finkelstein - "By Lett's statement is he then accusing the courts in California reviewing the Candace Conti case as apostates..."

    sir82 - "Not only that, he is calling them lying apostates. As well as all the news sources which have reported the matter."

    Well, it is "Satan's World", dontcha know.

    They all wanna snuff out "God's Earthly Organization" by any means.

    x

    When I'm in a cynical mood, I'm inclined to suspect that if these guys are ever arrested and given prison time, the hard-core loyalists will simply interpret it as heroic martyrdom (or at least try and convince themselves of that), and become even more staunch in their allegiance.

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