scholar pretendus goatus buggerus wrote:
: I enjoyed the pretty pictures of the modern day city of Tyre known as Sur in Lebanon but you failed to provide the geographical co-ordinates for the ancient Phoenecian city of Tyre.
It's hard to believe, but you become more moronic every time you post.
First, your call for me to provide geographic coordinates is just plain stupid. With just a wee bit of work -- which you are obviously highly averse to -- you can find it yourself. Your idiotic call here is a red herring.
Second, I already gave the geographic coordinates. In my post 4532 responding to you, I told you that I had already given the exact geographic coordinates in a previous post. In that previous post 4530 I gave the exact geographic coordinates of the middle of the sandbar which connects the old island part of Tyre with the mainland part: 33:16:12 N by 35:12:10 E.
You are stupid beyond words, Neil.
: Ezekiel prophesied in 26:14 that "city will never be rebuilt" but apostates claim that this prophecy is false and that it has been rebuilt.
Which is correct. If you look at the various maps and photos that several posters have provided -- in contrast to you idiot JW defenders, who cannot even manage properly to look at maps when they're displayed on the screen in front of you -- you'll immediately see that the entire island is now occupied by dwellings. Therefore, the old island city has been rebuilt, since it's unarguably on the same piece of land, unarguably has the same name, and its inhabitants as well as the rest of the world understand that the city has been destroyed and rebuilt many times over the centuries.
: Certainly, the area in which the ancient island city of Tyre has been rebuilt over the centuries and exists today but I did not see any evidence of that ancient city of Ezekiel's era in that lovely photo from Earth Google.
That's because you're morally stupid and refuse to admit what you see.
: In the future, I may visit Tyre and with my hand-held GPS unit I can feed in those precise coordinates and find that ancient city or the city that has been rebuilt on the precise site of that ancient city.
You just do that, you idiot.
You also wrote:
: Alan F and Jeffro
: I have just now looked at your crazy nonsense trying to prove 538 BCE for the Return.
So you admit that everything you've written up to this point that you claimed was in response to our many posts over a period of many months was not based on actually reading our posts, even though you pretended that it was. You admit that you're a liar, then. What does the Bible say about liars? It is obvious that you do not actually read posts in response to your nonsense, but only pretend to. I figured that out a long time ago.
Furthermore, in view of your previous responses where you failed to read what we said, but you responded as if you did, the Bible has appropriate words for you: "When anyone is replying to a matter before he hears it, that is foolishness on his part and a humiliation." -- Proverbs 18:13. Of course, anyone who has followed your foolish career on this forum does not need to be reminded that you're a silly fool.
: Your methodology is plain dumb and simply wrong. My analysis proves
What "analysis"? You've never attempted to present one.
: quite of subject
Are you writing in English?
: that the Jews returned home by Tishri of 537 in the first year of Cyrus. The second year of Cyrus saw the laying of the Temple foundation in the second month of 536 in harmony with Josephus.
Really. Then you're claiming that the 2nd year of Cyrus ran from Nisan 536 through Adar 535. But in this, you contradict the Watchtower Society, which properly assigns Cyrus' 2nd year from Nisan 537 through Adar 536, and his 1st year from Nisan 538 through Adar 537.
Josephus clearly states that the Temple foundations were laid in the 2nd month of the 2nd year of Cyrus, which, in agreement with Watchtower dating, was in the spring of 537 B.C., namely, the month of Iyaar. Ezra 3 clearly indicates similar dating. Ezra 3 also specifically states that the Temple foundations were laid in the 2nd month of the year after the Jews' return, which was obviously 537 B.C. -- unless you reject the Society's dating of Cyrus' reign. Therefore, the year of the Jews' return was 538.
Your 'analysis' is wrong.
You provide no data, and you provide no arguments. You state mere conclusions with no support whatsoever.
The reason you do this is obvious: as soon as you state the reasons for your stupid and unsupported conclusions, it becomes obvious even to you that they're stupid and unsupported.
Furthermore, in one post you even managed to admit that Josephus' statement about the date of the Temple's rebuilding was correct, that it was in 537 B.C. Now you change your tune. Why?
: The year 538 is simply impossible as the Jews returned home by the seventh month, Tishri of 537 and not 538.
Circular reasoning at its finest.
: because Tishri in the first year of Cyrus from Nisan 538-Nisan 537 proves that the seventh month Tishri falls not in 538 but 537BCE.
How stupid can anyone possibly be? You're admitting that Cyrus' 1st year was as I stated above. You obviously have no concept of simple math, and of how months run. Let me help you. I will list the relevant months in each relevant year. You try and follow this simple text, eh?
538___Nisan_____Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 1____Cyrus issues his famous decree
538___Iyyar______Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 2
538___Sivan_____Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 3
538___Tammuz__Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 4
538___Ab_______Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 5
538___Elul______Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 6
538___Tishri_____Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 7____Jews are in their cities
538___Heshvan__Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 8
538___Chislev___Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 9
538/7_Tebeth____Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 10
537___Shebat____Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 11
537___Adar_____Cyrus' 1st Year, Month 12
537___Nisan____Cyrus' 2nd Year, Month 1
537___Iyyar_____Cyrus' 2nd Year, Month 2____Temple foundations laid
If you can't understand this simple list, then there's no help for you.
: Apostates in their desperation to undermine the integrity of 607 need to resort to desperate means which is plainly shown by your clumsy use of calendation.
Actually the reverse is true. You can't even understand that the 7th month, Tishri, of the Jewish year Nisan 538 through Adar 537 is still in the year 538, and that the 2nd month of the next year is in 537. But perhaps my diagram will have clued you in.
: My tabulation
What tablulation, you moron? You haven't given any.
: employs six lines of data based upon the accepted fact that the 1st year of Cyrus ran from Nisan of 538 until Nisan 537 BCE therefore such a framework proves conclusively that the seventh month falls not in 538 but in 537 BCE.
You're about as dumb as a flea.
AlanF
