For those who researched 607...

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  • scholar
    scholar

    garyneal

    Post 483

    Your two questions simply of biblical data essential in the construction of biblical chronology which in turn proves the validity of 607 BCE. These two biblical facts however are a big problem for those wordly scholars and apostates who try to prove 587 or 596 BCE.

    scholar JW

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    For starters it is the 'seventy year' prophecy of Jeremiah which must be factored into any biblical chronology and is not treated seriously by wordly scholars and apostates.
    scholar JW

    So.....

    607 BCE can be proved..

    If you use "only" WBT$ approved information..

    ?????????????

    Hammer HeadOnly "ScholarJW",could Out-Stupid himself..Hammer Head

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Outlaw,

    Yes, that is exactly what I see is going on when trying to determine which is correct. Only WBT$ approved publications are used by Jehovah's Witnesses to validate 607 BCE.

    Now I am in the process of trying to understand this myself but there seems to be so much confusion over the topic. However, here are some simple things that seem to just make sense.

    • Outside of the WT, there isn't a single source that I've encounter so far that supports 607 BCE.
    • I see absolutely no reason why anyone outside of the WT would even care whether or not the destruction of Jerusalem happened in 607 BCE or 587 BCE.
    • The WT clearly seems to have a motive in supporting 607 BCE for if 607 BCE is not right, then 1914 CE is not right. If 1914 CE is not right, then 1919 CE is not right. Therefore, Jesus did NOT begin reigning invisibly in 1914, He did not survey the world's religions between 1914 and 1919, and He did not select the WTS as His sole channel on Earth.
    • I've so far found two answers to the 70 years fulfillment.
      • The nations beginning their servitude to Babylon in 609 BCE when Babylon assumed control over Assyria to the fall of Babylon in 539 BCE.
      • The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 586 BCE to its being rebuilt in 516 BCE.
    • Charles Russell used pyramidology and astrology to help predict 1914 CE.
    • Jesus Christ clearly stated that it is not for us to know these dates, SO HOW DO WE KNOW?
  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Scholar

    Post 1838

    The King's list only accounts for 66 years counting backwards from 539 BCE. If King Neb started his reign in 605 BCE and according to the Bible, Jerusalem was destroyed in his 18 regnal year (19 accounting for his accession year), how come the math does not work out to 607 BCE? How is it that the WT has somehow managed to insert 20 years into the calculations?

  • scholar
    scholar

    OUTLAW

    Post 14431

    The date 607 BCE is not proved by WT publications alone but is proved by what the Bible states as fact which is then expressed in those faithful WT publications.

    scholar JW

  • scholar
    scholar

    garyneal

    Post 484

    You are sadly misinformed if you think that the validity of 607 BCE is based on what WT publications say. The fact of the matter is that the celebrated WT scholars have used numerous secular sources, both ancient and modern and past and recent scholarship in support of 607 BCE all in combination of the clear testimonny of God's Word. It does not get any better than that. The date 607 BCE for the Fall of Jerusalem is rock solid whichj cannot be said for the slippery dates of 687 or 586 BCE.

    The only confusion about this matter rests with apostates and higher critics who have all stumbled over 607 BCE.The very fact that 607 BCE is championed by JW'S alone should give our critics pause to think that Jehovah God is truly confounding the wisdom of the world.

    The accuracy of 607 BCE points to the accuracy of 1914 CE and modern history vindicates the factual fulfilment of prophecy but there is nothing out there that can be used to support 686/587 BCE for these are 'dead end' dates.

    Your so-called two answers to the seventy year prophecy are bogus and find no scriptural support for these are two hopeless theories simply leading to 'dead-ends'.

    scholar JW

  • scholar
    scholar

    garyneal

    Post 485

    The king list is inaccurate so the data is compromised so whatever list you use is useless. Nebuchadnezzer did not begin his reign in 605 BCE but rather according to Bible chronology and history he began to reign in 624 as his first accession year with the months of January-February. This means that the maths do add uo with his taking of Jerusalem in his 19th year as 607 BCE.

    scholar JW

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Scholar

    Post 1842

    If the king's list is inaccurate, what is the accurate list? Can you show me the Bible chronology that supports 624 as the accession year? I am still trying to figure out how the WTS accounts for the missing 20 years. You haven't provided me with any information to validate your assertions. Just because "The Watchtower Says So" is not good enough. If the WT is indeed correct, the facts would be available for anyone to check. Where are the facts?

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Interesting, an hour has now passed and there is not one response from scholar concerning the facts needed to support 624 BCE and account for the missing twenty years needed to make 607 BCE correct.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Scholar hasn't come to realize when you feed off of ignorance, you become ignorant.

    The WTS has for decades put forth the proclamation that they and only they are the true spokesmen for god

    chosen by himself to dispel bible truths, through his holy spirit.

    Was this just just a self supporting marketing strategy for the Publishing company and

    an assertive act to self empower themselves.

    The facts and evidence speak for themselves.

    Commercialized religious charlatans rarely are associated with the truth.

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