A 'cure' for homosexuality?

by ThomasCovenant 62 Replies latest members adult

  • ThomasCovenant
    ThomasCovenant

    Hi

    Before I start I am not trying to offend anyone. And I realize this has been discussed before.

    I had a conversation with a relative the other day who is no longer a JW and we were discussing the fact that when you are 'in' all your personal views have to take a backseat to the Borg's views of the Bible. For example

    Sex before marriage = wrong, the Society/bible says so

    Going to war = wrong, the Society/bible says so

    Taking drugs = wrong, the Society/ bible says so

    Abortion = wrong, the Society/ bible says so etc etc

    Now that we have left and both of us are now total non believers we are now forced to suddenly make our own minds up on these and other subjects.

    People 'in the world' gradually develop this ability as they grow up and mature whereas we who abruptly lose the 'faith' ( and wake up) have to suddenly think these things through.

    Anyway now to the point. As we were discussing what our views are on various subjects my relative said that he doesn't agree with homosexuality as he believes that it is not the normal way of nature. Species will die out without reproduction and therefore homosexuality is an illness or aberration the same as Downs syndrome. He said if your child had Downs Syndrome and there was a cure most if not all people would take the cure. Now if your child had the genetic makeup to become homosexual and there was a 'cure' available would that be the same thing?

    What got me thinking of this was a recent online piece of news on the BBC I think which said scientists have been able to measure differences in the brain activity of paedophiles. Now if there was a magic pill that a paedophile could take to enable him to no longer be sexually attracted to children I would assume that most people would want him to be given the treatment.

    Is homosexuality not the natural way?

    If it's not and there was a preventative treatment would it be the right thing to be made available.

    Please remember I am not trying to offend anyone's feelings although I realize this may happen.

    Thanks

    Thomas Covenant

  • BFD
    BFD

    I took no offense until you tried to combine two topics. Somehow in your mind there is a connection that homosexuality = paedophile?!?!

    Where in the hell do you get that idea?

    Answer my question first, then I'll answer yours.

    Geeze, what a f*cked up post to open first thing in the morning.

    Will

  • wozadummy
    wozadummy

    Hi TC

    I guess I agree to a degree with your freind ,but it would be foolish I think to box people by being home or not just like that .

    There is definitely people born with with body parts that don't seem to agree with their nature and the way they think and grow up etc. but they are genetically not the norm.

    But where is the prescence in DNA to prove this one or that one is homosexual or not, where is the absolute proof that a person just can't help themself from being homosexual in a general sense .I think these are a rare oddity of nature .

    As for comparing a study on pedophiles ,I hav'nt read the article but if their brain patterns are different is it not possible that the changed brainwaves are brought about by habitual thinking down the wrong road? Otherwise we would forever be blaming DNA for every crime in the world. Is'nt bad enough that there is enough bleeding heart intellectuals around already trying to keep the filthy, cruelest people on this planet alive who have done disgusting things to innocents ?

    A question then ,if someone who says they've been homosexual in temperament all their life ,goes and get's a sex change ,and then realises they have changed their mind....and gets a reversal again - which part of the DNA was in error - the homosexual part or the normal part? (this is a case I know of personally)

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    Not to get away from the subject...but Pedophilia has been linked to mental illness and often times being molested as a child themselves. Homosexuality on the other hand is not linked to any "illness" or traumatic experience. While I know you were not stating a link between the two, just getting that out there. This post reminds me of a daily show about gay penguins...watch....http://static.userland.com/gems/jake/video/DailyShow040923GayPenguins.mov

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    My thoughts on your comments. I wouldnt compare homosexuality to downs syndrome. .

    I see homosexuality among other things as a form of birth control. People can have sex without having children.

    Using rubbers and birth controls is unnatural. Should people take a pill to cure them from wanting to practice birth control?

    Homosexuals can have as many children as hetrosexuals. Just not with other homosexuals. A lot of homosexuals I know have children. So if the did their duty and reproduced why cant they have sex with other consenting adults?

  • ness
    ness

    I took no offense until you tried to combine two topics. Somehow in your mind there is a connection that homosexuality = paedophile?!?!

    Where in the hell do you get that idea?

    Answer my question first, then I'll answer yours.

    Geeze, what a f*cked up post to open first thing in the morning.

    Will

    what he said

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    In his defense he didn't say they were the same thing. He was just making a connection to the fact that if there were a cure for it a lot of people might take it.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    Homosexuality is not natural behaviour by any means but on the other hand it seems to be in the genes and homosexuals can't help it. Though I don't agree with it I can understand why some people have no option but to engage in it. Homosexuality and pedophilia do not coincide since most pedos are heterosexual.

  • Clam
    Clam

    I wish there was a cure for narrow minded ignorance.

  • ThomasCovenant
    ThomasCovenant

    Hi

    BFD and ness . Apologies if I have upset you. I am not saying there is a connection between homosexuality and paedophilia any more than there is a connection between homosexuality and Downs Syndrome.

    The word cure was deliberately put in inverted commas by myself as I am not even saying that homosexuality is something that warrants curing.

    What is 'normal' ? What is 'natural'? Again at the risk of appearing to link homosexuality with paedophilia (which I am not) it could be argued that as paedophiles are perhaps born that way then that is perfectly natural. Maybe so but it is not something that I would say is acceptable to society in general and something that most people would like to see 'cured' from the person.

    To clarify, I am relating a conversation with someone else. He feels that homosexuality is not natural based on the natural animal world around. THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY MY VIEWS. Please bear that in mind.

    As to the definition of what is natural I feel that is a minefield in itself.

    Thanks

    Thomas Covenant

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