They would have to stay on topic which is nearly impossible for a jw. They do not truly know or understand what they parrot at the doors. Get beyond the latest articles or ask to delve deeper and they get frustrated and change the subject. Or the ever famous, "I'll have to get back to you on that". They know a few proof texts and that is about it, no real understanding of anything and if it has been a 'new light' at any time forget it! they get all flustered and mad. Bible only? forget that too!
Posts by carla
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Why are JWs so against debate
by enigma1863 inif the jws follow proverbs 27:17 they should not be afraid of any tension or friction.. in order for iron to sharpen iron you need pressure, tension friction and a bit of heated debate..
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when you were a JW what did you do with your fortune cookie?? LOL
by James Mixon insomeone who is not familiar with jw none sense would think, are you.
serious, a fortune cookie.
is there a scripture that say you will be destroyed when.
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carla
My jw will not touch a fortune cookie, lol! however he will toss one to me and ask me to read it as if I find some enjoyment out of them and it is not he that wants to hear it. Weird huh? it's ok as long as he is not the one actually touching the evil cookie and silly 'fortune'. Which reminds me to buy some Lucky Charms soon to see where he is at spiritually. Yeah, that's my measurement sometimes. He never passes that one!
Too bad the kids are gone and he can't steal their Halloween , Easter and Christmas candy.
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This is a topic I am going to kill with my opening post.Why haven`t the Major religions of Christendom exposed J.W.`s as the true Apostates
by smiddy ini am initially thinking of the major religious institutions of christianity , catholic ,many branches , church of england , and the major protestant religions , too numerous to mention here.. after all their is 40,000 plus christian religions in the world today ?so obviously j.w.`s are not the only false religion .. so my real question is really , to do with the mainstream christian religions , why are`nt they more aggressive in their condemnation of the jehovah witness religion for their obvious failings ,flip backs ,contradictions ,prophecy`s that never eventuated , end of the world predictions ,re-inventing their past history , even distancing themselves from their past history , and their founding members , such as c.t.russell and j.f.rutherford whose policies they now reject... they need to get on board and bleed it for all it`s worth .. smiddy .
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carla
Many of the mainstream (and particularly the Evangelical type) have apologetic courses that do include cults and jw's are mentioned and talked about. However, because jw's are a cult most do not truly understand the subtle milieu of actually being in the borg.
In my opinion, one can discuss doctrinal issues and that is fine but to me the human cost of this cult and what it does to the emotional, spiritual and often physical part of ones being is the true cost that is often left unsaid. Due to the nature of cults and secrecy (not giving jah a bad name, etc...) people simply do not know the damage jw's can cause.
Some people just don't believe how traumatic being in the jw's can be. I know from first hand experience that they don't believe! after all, jw's carry a Bible, dress nicely and speak softly........ where is that poem that begins like that? anyway, I am always glad to see new anti jw books out there because the public is simply not aware. The more negative publicity about them the better. The crazy conventions, literature, video and so forth that comes forward the more people will look at them like Scientology or some other group with negative publicity.
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Cant we put financial pressure on the Borg?
by 1tMakesNoSence inwhy dont everyone just start taking publications, asking for more and just say you don't have any money.
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if everyone does this, can't we put some significant financial pressure on the borg?.
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carla
Don't individual jw's have to pay for their mags? if that is the case it won't hurt the wt at all, just the individual jw and their household. -
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Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.
california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.
topics: religion / religion and government .
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carla
The public at large needs to know that the wt knowingly and willingly will send pedophiles to knock on their doors. Most don't believe it and my jw believes that all pedo's are df'd, he is totally clueless as are most jw's I suspect. -
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Our hall is asking for money...
by thedepressedsoul ini guess the branch isn't happy with the amount being sent each month since we are way lower than our loan amount.
we now have to another financial survey to see the max amount that can be given.
it is "encouraged" for all to be in attendance and give much forethought and consideration to the amount you can donate each month.
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carla
Thanks for posting the form! now when my jw claims they do not behave like Christendom re: money I have some real ammunition! (provided I am up for a dreaded jw discussion any time soon, which I'm not, at least I will be prepared if it happens) -
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What is your understanding of a christian Minister of God ?
by smiddy inas i understand it ,a christian minister of god is someone who goes to school gets the opportunity to further their education at a higher level ,then studies greek hebrew , latin , and what is available in ancient manuscripts , and demonstrates they have a comprehension of all these issues.....and of course they would need to get a pass on these subjects.. i think this would be the minimum standard required in the mainstream christian churches ,greek orthodox , catholic, all branches ,church of england ,and most of the mainstream protestant religions.
then we come to jehovah `s witnesses , none of the above applies to them , all they have is , they have been baptized by water immersion into their religion with none of the above qualifications.. and this includes minors , some as young as ten , possibly even younger in some situations who are classed as ministers of god simply by their baptism by water immersion.. they are also on record as saying higher education is a waste of time.why ?
because the end is just around the corner , a phrase that has been repeated and repeated since the year 1914 till now.. what young child could possibly hold their own with a discussion in theology or even comprehend the complexities of christianity with their counterparts.?.
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carla
I agree with all you have said but would also like to point out that most ministers with traditional education (4+ years, etc..) are trained in counseling as well. This most often includes marriage & family counseling but may also include other specialties as well. No jw is trained in anything other than parroting the wt's & awake's. -
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The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children
by minimus ini believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.
the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..
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carla
The parents will continue to be that carrot for the kids unfortunately for many.
Then again some of the parents will continue to attempt to bribe kids to stay. We had a case here that I remember, a young lady wanted out but the parents were bribing her with a new car she really wanted, don't remember her final choice and she has not posted for some time if memory serves.
I know a guy who's relatives tried to ply him with new appliances to join up! hmmm, new appliances or freedom? he chose freedom and that was pre-internet days. He is happy guy and those relatives that warned of the imminent end are long dead.
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Question for non-jw spouses
by FreeGirl2006 ina dub i know was recently reinstated.
she was dfd for leaving her hubby for another man.
she married the other man and then began the process of being reinstated.
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carla
Governor, perhaps you are better (wo)man than I! There are some things I just will not do for anybody, not for love or money and supporting this evil cult in anyway is one of them. I would not, could not stand by and watch my mate be a willing victim to such abuse. For one; I would not be able to keep my tongue in check and secondly watching it first hand would cause me to lose all respect for my jw who willingly submitted himself to such abuse. It would be like asking me to watch him get the crap beat out of him all the while he is asking for more and all of them saying it is out of love. Ask an abused woman which is worse? the physical abuse or the mental abuse? often they will say the mental abuse because at least the physical ends (for that day) and the bruises and broken bones heal. The emotional hits are the hard ones to heal and stay with you a lifetime.
As for a social outlet, there are many opportunities outside of the cult for that.
I will support my mate or family members in endeavors that will make them a better person, benefit them or family in some way or is just plain harmless fun. The cult is none of those things.
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Official List of Helpers to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks inofficial current list as published by watchtower >>> here.
official list of governing body of jehovahs witnesses helpers.
list of governing body of jehovahs witnesses helpers.
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carla
Why do they publish these names? Why don't they publish the names of their "translating" committee for their perverted bible?