Quotes website receives "Cease & Desist"

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  somebody

  I haven't got through even the first page of this thread, but from reading the message Quotes got, they are only concerned about the art of the watchtoer "castlelike building" artwork you used. Just as the the liguor advertizement that the WT used and did violate copywrite laws when they used the liquor art advertizement they did and thought they would get away with it without anyone noticing.

  The WTS INC, no matter how much it may be embarreased by letting it's history speak for itself cannot stop anyone from quoting material that they gave to the public, DOOR-TO-DOOR.

  If it will ever will have a case, it would be whenever it stopped publishing magazines to be distributed to the public, DOOR-TO-DOOR and stopped accepting donated money for it's public "worldwide work".

  As long as it is a charitable organization and tax exempt, then it cannot claim such copywrite laws.

  Has anyone here seen such a claim by any other charitable organization? Has anyone seen a charitable organization pissed off because others actually publised their written published material?

  I'm sure they have with other cults or charitable organizations publishing publications that it handed out and /or sent it's own adherents to the public to distribute, DOOR-TO-DOOR.
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  Kenneson

  U.S. Trademarks
  

  http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=jo8u58.1.1

  I can't retrieve it. Do a search under United States Patent and Trademark Office. Click trademark and then do a search under watchtower. Hope that works.

  Do a search under watchtower and you will see that there are 2 or 3 others who use the name watchtower (i.e. Watchtower--Toys, games, playthings; Watchtower--computer utility programs; Imc Watchtower--Video surveillence systems) besides the Watchtower Society. So, it doesn't seem that they have a monoply on the word. However, in the Watchtower Society's logo, they are the only ones who have an image of a watchtower. So, that will probably have to go.
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  NewLight2

  You could always use a picture like this for your logo. The WT does NOT have a trade mark on this ancient idol!
  
  ARTEMIS OF EPHESUS - The Tower Goddess
  
  More images here
  
  NewLight2
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  kgfreeperson

  (Not to drag this too far off topic, but I never before recognized all those crowned figures on coins and in statues as city goddesses with the city gate represented on her head. Now I'm assuming the convention of crowning heads of government [conferring divinity?] is based on those city goddesses? Thanks, newlight2!)
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  Poztate

  Is there a Jr.? I somehow recall a "Glen How" in the picture of Nathan Knorr and Leo Greenlees in Penton's book....

  Nope...It is the same guy. He has been around forever or at least it seems that he was.He finally got married only a year or two ago ? but the speculation was that it only happened so they could cut the lawers costs of seperate hotel rooms as they sped around the country defending all the pedo cases. I think the woman lawyer (his wife) is about 30 years younger than him.
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  AlmostAtheist

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  Do a search under watchtower and you will see that there are 2 or 3 others who use the name watchtower (i.e. Watchtower--Toys, games, playthings; Watchtower--computer utility programs; Imc Watchtower--Video surveillence systems) besides the Watchtower Society.
  
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  I think the issue here would be the similar nature of the use of the names. Quotes isn't just using the Watchtower as a name of his product, like "Watchtower Coin Collecting" or something. It's being specifically used in the same manner as the Watchtower. I would bet they'd have a case on this one. Like those celebrities that won back the use of domain names named after them, demimoore.com, that sort of thing.

  POZTATE: Glen and Linda married out of love, really. Any rumor about it being "arranged" or any such thing is baseless. And yeah, Glen's like 85 years old and she's maybe 50.

  Dave
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  Poztate

  Glen and Linda married out of love, really. Any rumor about it being "arranged" or any such thing is baseless. And yeah, Glen's like 85 years old and she's maybe 50.

  I am sorry...looking at it again it does seem like true love to me.
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  William Penwell

  I am sorry...looking at it again it does seem like true love to me.

  85!!! I knew the guy was as old as dirt. Yeah you know Viagra does wonders.

  Will
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  belbab

  OPEN LETTER TO W/ GLEN HOW & ASSOCIATES

  To Glen How and associates,

  In view of the fact that you have served ?Quotes? with a cease and desist order regarding his web site, I am certain that this thread is a suitable location to post an open letter to your firm. I assume with reasonable certainty that you or your clones are perusing the impact of your cease and desist order here.

  I remember,

  I remember back some 45 years ago, to a meeting at a Kingdom Hall, located in rented premises above some stores on Ste Catherine Street in Montreal Quebec. Perhaps close to two hundred pioneers were gathered there, at the request of Percy Chapman, the then branch servant of the Canadian branch of the Watchtower Society. You, Glen How, were requested to answer any legal question that the pioneers may have regarding their preaching work, which at that time was quite confronting to the populace.

  One of the questions asked was what should one do if he was asked by an apartment supervisor to leave the premises? Your answer: Punch him out!

  Percy Chapman hastily climbed up from his chair, ambled over to you and whispered in your ear for quite a few minutes. You resumed speaking, ?As I was saying,? and you back peddled hastily and completely reversed your inappropriate confrontational advice to the pioneers.

  It is too bad you do not have someone today to whisper sound advice into your ear. This cease and desist order is bad business, and your objectives will surely fail.

  Already the two hundred plus posts on this thread indicate the various courses of actions that will take place.

  • The information will be adjusted to comply with copy write regulations.
  • It will be hosted in foreign countries beyond the reach of your legal departments.
  • It will be downloaded to hundreds of sites and individuals around the globe.

  • It will result in bad press.
  • It will be contested in any legal efforts to enforce your cease and desist order.
  • It will put a blemish upon your reputation as a fighter for religious liberties, instead you will be labeled as an opposer to the free dissemination of information.

  What?s the matter? Do you not read and follow the scriptures anymore?

  Did not the Man say If someone slaps you on one cheek, offer him the other one also? If someone ask for your shirt, give him your undergarment too. If they persecute you in one city, flee to another. Love your enemies; do not return evil for evil.

  You instead, mobilize your legal war chariot; it will become mired in the mud, unable to climb the mountains to where those you pursue have fled.

  I hope you have many years left with you. I would like to see you experience the consequences of your actions.

  Walter Belobaba
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  AlmostAtheist

  Hey Quotes,

  We've been seeing alot of battle lines and strategies being drawn up, legal funds and ACLU's and such. I wonder if it's all necessary? Perhaps you could cut through it all and send a letter to Watchtower CC: your host (letter, not email) and explain that you would be willing to change your logo, shorten the entire articles to relevant quotes, and remove any images not in the public domain. In other words, give them a counter offer. They are saying, "We don't like it, quit" and so you come back with "But I don't want to quit, how about a compromise?" You come off smelling like a rose, it's a beautiful attempt at compromise that will only add to any future legal case, and it shows your current host that you're not closing your eyes and hoping it will all go away.

  Perhaps not offer to change the domain name, since there are precedents for people having commentary sites using the name of the organization they are commenting on, for example: http://www.microsoftsucks.com

  No need to make the letter confrontational. They're a business, you're a business. Never mind that you both think you have a higher purpose, for the moment just talk to them business to business. No ego, no posturing. Of course, that's not how they treated you, but since when are we not "bigger men" than the Watchtower?

  Dave