Why My Wife and I Have No Kids

by JT 66 Replies latest jw friends

  • JT
    JT

    *** g74 11/8 ***9 Is This the Time to Have Children?
    There has always been a positive attitude about childbearing. Families with many children have been praised and honored. On the other hand,’a couple without children has been considered unfortunate. Barrenness has even been regarded as a reproach to a woman.

    This attitude is changing, however. Many informed couples nowadays hesitate when it comes to childbearing, asking themselves: Is this really a time to have children?

    *** g74 11/8 10 Is This the Time to Have Children? ***
    Ominous Predictions
    Further reinforcing the decision of some couples are ominous predictions for the immediate future.

    *** g74 11/8 11 Is This the Time to Have Children? ***
    Significantly, in the first century Jesus Christ himself gave an ominous forecast regarding a calamity coming upon Judea.

    It was in 66 C.E. that the armies of Roman general Cestius Gallus encamped around Jerusalem, but then withdrew, apparently without any reason for doing so. This provided believers in Jesus’ prediction opportunity to flee. Those who did so were wise, for shortly afterward the Roman armies returned and the destruction upon those who remained was terrible beyond description.

    The circumstance that Jesus foretold proved true: “Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land.” (Luke 21:23) One can be sure that flight was more difficult for delaying parents with small children. If you had been living prior to that destruction and knew of its nearness, would you have considered that a time to be having children inside the province of Judea?

    Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus’ prophecy will shortly have a major fulfillment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time. They have chosen to remain childless so that they would be less encumbered to carry out the instructions of Jesus Christ to preach the good news of God’s kingdom earth wide before the end of this system comes.—Matt. 24:14.

    My mother was carrying my baby brother Steve when this article came out- she was asked by one sister: "How will you run when the tribulation starts"

    My mother used to cry and pray that my brother would be born before the end came-
    This type of information was played up by CO, DO and Bethel speakers and tons of local elders- this type of material was used to fire up the troops and even down till today

    Many couples still refrain from having kids since the end is so near-

    My wife and I are a 38yr old black couple with no kids and Why- well THE END IS SO CLOSE

    IT becomes very clear when one understands the influence that the wt has on it's members to understand how they indoctrinate it's members

    Notice the title of the Article itself (Is This the Time to Have Children?)

    LIKE SO many articles that the wt writes they ask leading questions then they provide what is considered Proof to lead one to the conclusion that they want you to come to without even having to tell you.

    Now did they say not to have children NOPE, but what did they do- they set up the circumstances to lead one to the conclusion that having children now while not wrong--- is not wise or the "Mature" Christian couple would consider that they can use the time better doing what SELLING WATCHTOWER'S BOOKS

    THE sad part is when one looks at the year that this article was written it is almost a joke in and of itself

    This is why groups like jw are often referred to as Doomsday groups

    I mean notice this powerful quote from this article:

    Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus’ prophecy will shortly have a major fulfillment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time. They have chosen to remain childless so that they would be less encumbered

    Now let's break this down-:: Why are these people confident that a destruction is NOW IMMINENT? What does imminent mean? In the minds of the avg person would they consider------ "Imminent"-------- to mean--- 6months,maybe a year or would they be thinking 25 or more years?

    Notice this quote:

    . The evidence is that Jesus’ prophecy will shortly have a major fulfillment

    Who has determined what constitutes "Evidence" THE LAPD Crime LAB?

    AND what does Shortly mean? So that a couple need not consider having kids?
    3months 9 months a year or would the avg person consider the word "Shortly" to mean 25 yrs?

    Next quote:

    "This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children"

    what is the "THIS" that has cause not a few but "MANY COUPLES" from having kids.

    Did this "THIS" prove true so that the folks who didn't have kids were correct or did it prove to be no more than AN OPINION NOT BASED ON THE BIBLE AT ALL?

    MANY jw who come here and folks like "OLD HIPPIE" clearly fail to see how this type of information- claiming it's authority directly from god through his mouth PC has influenced so many millions of JW in the type of decisions that they have made in their life

    This is why the wt is so dangerous-- they provide so much info in talks and publications that shape and mold folks thinking , value system and outlook on life such as college, kids, jobs, retirement, etc. and why

    Cause jw are to view this as FOOD FROM GOD- NOT OPINIONS FROM THE BOYS IN WRITING

    If the wt did bible commentary on issues they would be fine-- since it would be understood that the "Following is the opinion of the WT Editorial Staff"

    But they don't THEY STATE MATTERS ON issues and say THIS IS NEW LIGHT FROM JAH HIMSELF- then in 5 years we all have seen how God got the light wrong

    The wt paper trail is their worst enemy for it clearly shows to any real researcher that their claim to being "Spirit Directed" is wrong

    Yes WT will be around for years to come since they do sell hope and they promise every new member a "Breach Front Timeshare PC of Property"
    Problem is the same of course it's always for WEEK 53

    James

    PS even though this article was written over 25yrs ago-- this type of mindset is still being Instill in JW couples all over the world

    the having of kids is something that JW NEVER ENCOURAGE, BUT SELLING BOOKS AS COUPLE FULLTIME DUE THE END SO CLOSE IS THE ONLY ENCOURAGEMENT THE ORG WILL GIVE

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    JT,

    Have you ever heard of the word "SEX"? You got to have SEX in order to have kids!!

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    hey Fred,

    Have you ever had sex?

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Prisca,

    I think you should ask JT that question. However, this cat have alot of kittens.

  • Tina
    Tina

    (((((((((Jt))))))))and Mrs

    Thank you for putting it so clearly how yet again the WTS can and does control people's lives.Right down to the choice of having children or not.
    It reminds me of all the elderly bros and sis. who put off marriage for the same reasons you mentioned,according to WTS 'instructions'.And who live such isolated lonely lives because of that.
    For all it's clamoring about 'family',I came to the conclusion that this has to be one of the most anti-family oriented cults around.
    luv,T

    si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    But Fred,

    You're not married!!

    Are you admitting to committing porneia?

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Tina,

    If someone have a isolated and lonley life then, they should have a cat like me to cat them happy.

  • barry
    barry

    Dont worry about anyone says and dont feel guilty about having kids there lots of fun Ive got two boys 1 and 5 both you and your wife are not too old but dont leave it to long start tonight. No christian group has any right at all to influence you in any way and if they do they should identify themselves as a CULT.
    God bless, Barry

  • Pathofthorns
    Pathofthorns

    Although your formatting as always sucks , the style is an unmistakable trademark and the content is as always, a brilliant insight into the reality of what constitutes and influences JW thinking.

    It is a difficult thing to explain just why this group is harmful. Unfortunately when you reach the point where you can appreciate the danger in it, so many years of living have been lost.

    Nice comments. Thanks,

    Path

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    Getting back to the subject at hand, Barry brings up a positive thought.

    The two of you are NOT too late to start having kids. My sister and her husband were around the same age when they decided to start a family. They too had relied on the Society's admonitions during the mid-80s to refrain from raising kids. However, the maternal instinct won out and they now have a very healthy child. They could have had more, but my sister decided for her own reasons to stay with the one.

    So, although you have missed out on having a whole tribe of kids, it is not too late to start planning for one if you really want a child.

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