Posts by 4thgen

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December 1,2014 watchtower saying buying house is bad

by hoser in

page 15.

"take for example a christian couple in asia.

in their younger years, they admired those who could afford to own a house.

4thgen

iOubliette - Thank you for your opinions. I agree with you on:

"...the outcome" of this contrived situation was deliberately designed by the writer of this article to lead you to the foregone conclusion which they have already drawn for you. The important thing for us to learn here, is that WT writings are carefully crafted propaganda designed to reinforce their selfish goals and manipulate you into believing and thereby acting as they wish. It is important to develop the cognitive skill to recognize when you're being had."

It is nice that things worked out of you with your mortgage. Others are not so lucky. In my opinion, you are taking a narrow view of the real estate market, considering only your local area.

Additionally, your comments of 'You should keep in mind'. etc. is very condesending.

Most likely, the illustration was fabricted by the Watchtower.

I do not want to debate words here....I only want to help and I still believe that it's best to get educated. Being lucky in the market doesn't aways happen.

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Do you pay for air for your tires at your gas station?

by jam in

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friends

this was on the news this morning.

when you buy gas air is part .

of the service, it should be free.

4thgen

Air for the tires is free in the farming areas and by smaller cities. In the larger metro areas you pay for air.

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New Awake! Dealing With Mental Illness

by runForever in

contains a list of 9 practical steps except they forgot one: 10. do not become a jehovah's witness.. .

1. follow the treatment prescribed.

by qualified mental-health.

4thgen

More changes to become to become a more mainstream religion! What about those who were counseled that the mental health professionals were evil and should be avoided? Conflicted89 is not alone! I know many, many JW's who were told the same thing. 'Pray more. More service. you are unspiritual because you are depressed.' What about those poor souls who killed themselves, because of the 'old light' thinking they were forgotten by God because they were depressed and needed medication? Yep, the old bait and switch.

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December 1,2014 watchtower saying buying house is bad

by hoser in

page 15.

"take for example a christian couple in asia.

in their younger years, they admired those who could afford to own a house.

4thgen

Hi Oubliette, I disagree with your disagreeing....

If they had to borrow the downpayment, they didn't have the 20-25% saved to put as a downpayment. Therefore, they could not really afford it. They got in over their heads, as was shown by the outcome.

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Spiritually strong people don't care what others think of them.

by hoser in

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jesus is a good example of this.

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4thgen

Mother Teresa didn't care what others thought.....and I don't belive she had ' antisocial behavior' or was a 'sociopath and psychopath'. She makes a lot of sense, in my book...

Do it Anyway

"People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered.

Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives.

Be kind anyway.

If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies.

Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you.

Be honest and sincere anyway.

What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight.

Create anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous.

Be happy anyway.

The good you do today, will often be forgotten.

Do good anyway.

Give the best you have, and it will never be enough.

Give your best anyway.

In the final analysis, it is between you and God.

It was never between you and them anyway.

-this version is credited to Mother Teresa"

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December 1,2014 watchtower saying buying house is bad

by hoser in

page 15.

"take for example a christian couple in asia.

in their younger years, they admired those who could afford to own a house.

4thgen

The Asia real estate market is in the crapper. What happened to those poor people in the article was what happened to so many people worldwide.....They timed the real estate market wrong....they had poor financial planning and they chose buy a house they couldn't afford and borrowed the downpayment. This does not equate to lack of spirituality, it is the result of the economy and a lack of FINANCIAL EDUCATION. They needed more education to make real estate work for them...

Maybe if they took a class or two at the local college (heavens no!) instead of knocking on doors, they would be alright today! Or, if they had the genious real estate/financial planners of the WT, they would do better. But of coure the WT has to spin it all and make it look like they are unspiritual. What a bunch of crap.

They teach: "Preach....don't get an education". So, JW's make poor decisions because of the lack of education...then when things go wrong, instead of blaming the lack of knowledge, they say that it was because they are bad unspiritual people....so stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grrrrrrrr

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Why do you come here?

by love2Bworldly in

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i come here to learn, but i also come here because it feels like a private club and i'm privy to be a member of the "in" crowd.

it's a great place to socialize.

does anyone else feel that they are a member of a special "club" when they come here, that only some people in this world will understand the jw world?.

4thgen

For confirmation bias, I suppose. It's comforting to know I'm not alone. I've also got a variety of advise ont his site to help navigate unchartered territories. Additionally, I am hoping to help others. We are all in this together.

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More delegate parties and dancing!

by Atlantis in

july 2014 - conyers assembly hall party and dancing for the.... play the video!.

petra.

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4thgen

Thank you for sharing this video. It was very telling.

From the aerial shot at the end of the video, you can tell that this was professionally done. As a matter of fact, from the details of the event IE cutesy food carts, uniforms for the servers, music, etc. it can be deduced that a professional meeting and event planner was a part of this event.

Was that JW.org buttons on the dancers?

Now, why would JW.org hire a professional event planner and a professional cinema photographer? The only answer is that they are doing a huge brand marketing campaign, with the new and improved JW’s.

What was creepy about the whole thing was that they looked so NORMAL and happy….a group to be a part of.

Additionally, what happened to the scripture about being “No part of the world?” That event looked strikingly similar to any promotional clip from any “worldy’ event or organization.

And what’s with the choir in matching outfits on stage?????

That screams “Christendom!”

This marketing campaign is evil, when you think of the reason behind the branding. They are slapping a lipstick on a pig and calling it pretty.

It seems that they are making a cult look normal – I suppose if they hired professionals to do a marketing campaign in Jonestown, they would have had a flood of converts before the massacure.

God, this is scary!

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Watchtower Is Outraged! Look What Comes Up When You Type Jehovah's Witnesses on Google!

by BucketShopBill in

http://www.familiesagainstcultteachings.org/education-about-cults/destructive-groups/.

google will put up in the number one slot who ever is paying them the highest amount of cash, i was surprised to see what changed over the last two days, what do you make of this?

when i typed in jehovah's witnesses news the following link and story came up!

4thgen

Now I am confused. Was the recent JW.org campaign to keep the site at the top of searches because of the volume of hits they hoped to get?

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Missing some forum members?? Billy / Mouthy etc...

by stuckinarut2 in

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has anyone heard from "billy the ex bethelite" or "mouthy"?.

they, along with a few others have not been seen on here for a while.... hope they are ok??.

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4thgen

Me too. Whats up?