http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01kpvj1/heart_vs_mind_what_makes_us_human/.
i was watching this bbc iplayer programme on heart and mind, (which is well worth a watch if you can access where you are).
and despite how the programme starts out, it develops into a deep and touching discussion of what makes us human.. i personally was left with the feeling at odds with what i believed as a witness.
Phizzy .."We make our decision before our brain processes it".
Jgnat...The process of deciding is cognitive act by the brain.
Now which one is it?
JGNAT it looks kike you and I concur .any feeling we have is immediately processed by the cognitive function of our brain.
I stand to be corrected of course by science.
No one was talking about brain damage thats quite a different matter.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01kpvj1/heart_vs_mind_what_makes_us_human/.
i was watching this bbc iplayer programme on heart and mind, (which is well worth a watch if you can access where you are).
and despite how the programme starts out, it develops into a deep and touching discussion of what makes us human.. i personally was left with the feeling at odds with what i believed as a witness.
Hey phizzy, If you think we can make a decision before the brain processes it what is the process of deciding?.The sensory triggers sight, smell , touch even what we call instinct, ie reacting to an inbuilt feeling must be channelled through our sensory organ the brain. Our nervous system is directed immediately to the brain. Any other solution would be new to science!.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01kpvj1/heart_vs_mind_what_makes_us_human/.
i was watching this bbc iplayer programme on heart and mind, (which is well worth a watch if you can access where you are).
and despite how the programme starts out, it develops into a deep and touching discussion of what makes us human.. i personally was left with the feeling at odds with what i believed as a witness.
Do you mean , that primitive creatures developed with feeling without a sensory organ ?. Although we speak of the heart as the 'seat of emotions' our emotions are entirely controlled by our sensory organ the brain. So what makes us human? ? Being that language vocabulary etc is relatively modern in terms of the time scale of our existence, we were well developed before any human like creature could even consider the question.
Therefore as we became more and more 'human' which involved more intricate reasoning the only way would be through the development of the brain.
Human therefore equals...Developed brain power which encompasses the emotions (heart) if you like. My humble opinion of course .
the bible speaks of it making a man fully equipt 2tim, and that the anointing teaches one 1john, holy spirit is also available luke, john and even god will grant wisdom if one asks james.
so why the need for a faithful and discreet slave, in the bible???
?.
Why would anyone condone the practice of slavery?, by the use of the subject matter even in a parable?was it because it was a norm of that era. Why didn't jesus condemn slavery? Was man supposedly not created to have free will. Surely to be a slave would be contrary to gods plan. And yet the J.W. / GB model themselves on the position as a slave . Why would that be something to be proud of, slaves have always been seen as , lowly , not worthy, under achievers. HEH THAT DESCRIBES THEM TO A TEE !!!.
woof!.
i care for numerous canines and wonder about your experiences with man's best friend.. some appear ready and able to do as asked and others, well, just sort of stare .
and stare.
They should all be wolves, then you'd really stay out of their way....AAWOOOOO !!!
i found the meetings to be especially boring from the late 1980s on.
before that, we actually tried to make people want to listen.
the meetings were pretty interesting.
I learned how to lie , fake illness, and conveniently dissappear when it was time to go. Gestures sometimes came in handy but not the way the borg would have liked ha ha
woof!.
i care for numerous canines and wonder about your experiences with man's best friend.. some appear ready and able to do as asked and others, well, just sort of stare .
and stare.
Nope , I find they all react to the feeding bowl in much the same way. Stop feeding them and see how much they "love" you ! WOOF !!!
today we know that matter and energy are interchangeable, hence they are there always in either form, they are eternal, hence requires no creator.
hence atheism is right in rejecting a creator, but failed in providing any motivation for people to do good.
religions, in their effort to provide a motivating factor for humans to do good, introduced creation stories and other myths; hence they too are right (as far as their intention is concerned), yet failed in producing any worthy resultsworld was steadily moving from bad to worse and from worse to worst!.
The ability or desire of the human species to do good, stems from how we developed in our primitive past. Basically it stems from how we survived best with others. Humans must have realised as the brain developed that certain behaviors worked better with your family group /tribe or neighbours. This behavior (positive) was about cooperation which would better aid survival. This then became what we know as "good" .My conclusion therefore is there is no correlation between being atheist /theist and good. We all can be good, have morals because it stems from our need to survive and how we as individuals like to be treated. In my humble opinion of course .
in my search for the truth and the burning desire to become free from all forms of dogma and wishful thinking.
i have approached my first crossroads in my life, should i continue to believe in a god or not?.
currently i am leaning toward agnosticism, but all the suffering in the world, all the loss and pain in my own life makes it hard for me to simply let go of the idea and hope that at the end justice will prevail, that one day god can make it all good.. .
Seraph, I know you'll understand the heart is a muscle. Science uses brain power. When was the last time you heard of a muscle finding a cure for disease?.
When did god ever cure a disease (apart from silly stories) So he or it is already irrelevant on that score. Is that me being naive?
Reasoning is of course a progressive process, why should it ever fail? By way of reasoning we contribute to this forum!
Finite time ..? Yes but within those immense constraints shouldn't we allow science and emotions to work together for the good of mankind, surely we have that amount of cognitive capacity . Its not all doom and gloom, lets find some happiness our head and ' heart ' can work together towards that goal. It doesn't have to be so complicated.
do the witnesses believe satan is in this world completely invisible or do they believe he is some kind of spirit intervening with humans?
how exactly does the evil lucifer "control" the earth?
in what sense is he actually here in this world, and is there anyway we can know he really is on earth?
Look out he's behind you!!! .ONLY JOKING .
