Ecclesiastics
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thought this quote (ecclesiasticus 37:14) from another thread deserved it's own.. finally, stick to the advice your own heart gives you,.
no one can be truer to you than that;.
since a person's soul often gives a clearer warning.
Ecclesiastics
thought this quote (ecclesiasticus 37:14) from another thread deserved it's own.. finally, stick to the advice your own heart gives you,.
no one can be truer to you than that;.
since a person's soul often gives a clearer warning.
Are you sure that's 37:14 ?
from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
I had a friend, that's been dead for a number of years now. He quit school in the 6th. His family lived a short walk to one of the big Collage's in LA. He spent every minute he could studying in the collage library. At 19 he went to work at JPL. In a short time they knew he was a really smart man. His understanding of math & science were over the top! In no time he was set up with his own lab and staff. Hi tech fuels that were used in the Apollo missions were his, along with the shuttle fuels. He received Phd's from MIT, U Alabama, UCLA, without ever taking a class. He moved to All in the mid 70's, and worked for NASA, at the Red Stone Arsenal. He was just unbelievably smart!
Education, is more than going to a higher school, and a sheep skin! I know people with 4 to 8 year degree's, that work the counters at McDonald's, because they do not have what it takes, to use what they learned!
Everyone has natural abilities both in learning and understanding! I worked with mechanical engineer's for a few years, one a Mr Bill Fortman, had only a high school education, yet he had a natural mechanical understanding, the others could never match. No amount of education can teach what he had!
I am nobody, under pressure from the elders, I quit school in the 9th, to pionner. Right after that my dad order me back to school, or get out. I was hardly 15. I left. Pioneered, worked, and lived in a boarding house until I was 18. I got a real job. One day they started giving everyone assessment test. Then based on the results gave more specialized test. Mine was Mechanical. In a test that was to take an hour, I finished it in 25 minutes. I scored 99%. Well I was accused of cheating, for no one had ever taken this test in less than 50 minutes, and I was told no one had ever scored over 97%. Well they gave me a much newer test, with three people watching. It too was an hour test. I finished it in 46 minutes! And scored 99%! The next week I was sent to Chicago for training, under Bill Fortman. Major pay increase, and a great job. Sadly over time the elders got to me, for all though I made moist meetings, and fs, it wasn't good enough, I bought into the lie's about 75, and quit the best job I ever had. I would be retired now, and in much better shape!
I wasted my real gift for nothing, broken, used up and crushed. In pretty bad shape physically, and i see no real way forward!
this was my first memorial thinking outside of the box.
last year i was starting to have questions but this is the first year i noticed a lot of bs.
can anyone clarify a few things for me?.
It's all to get the crowd, a since of awa and extra respect for those that do!
A long time friend of mine started pertaking back in 70. I was just 12 at the time.but some years later I ask him how he knew, and he told me a lot of stuff, seemed to make sense. Well he stopped a few years ago!
i have seen this over the years that some that get df'd and later reinstated can be the most hypocritical.
one case comes to find about my nephew who was df'd about 10 years ago for cupping a little feel of some dub sisters boobs.
well right away he turns to us non dubs for moral support as he is being ostracized by the dub relatives.
if you are willing to pay attention to the org's history and do any kind of unbiased personal research, it's impossible to miss ttatt.. watchtower's publication archive provides all the information anyone would ever need.where are all of the "half truths and outright lies" actually coming from?
( old light ).
why, oh why, back in 1989 when i first got hooked did i not do any research into the watchtower corporation?.
Sad thing on my part, I had everything the WT printed going back to the 1870, and read almost all of it. but like a good little sheeple, I accepted the light gets brighter story, HOOK LINE & SINKER!!!! I gave that whole collection away back in 1999, as I was packing up and moving away. I so wish i still had it all.
Looking back on just the things I remember I have to ask, WHY oh WHY did that not sound alarm bells!!!!!!!! I guess we got blinded by the light!!!!
maybe i'm late but i just discovered that elders now have an email service run on the jw.org domain name.. those emails might contain a treasure trove of very sensitive material regarding rape, molestation, pedophilia cases etc.. the cult keeps getting creepier and creepier.
why would they do that in this day and age, lots of damning stuff in one place?.
i was just invited.
i thanked my old elder friend and he left.
(i'm not going).
i seldom hear of people getting df'd anymore.
years ago it seemed there were a few per year in a congregation.
I think more are keeping their mouth shut, out of fear of losing family and friends. And many others, just walk away!
Dwain
today i walked up to a group of cart witnesses and picked up a watchtower.
i opened the watchtower up to the first page , and asked one of the witnesses if he had read it.. lie # 1... he said he read it.. i ask my second question to a woman witness sitting next to him , who by the way was hard to tear away from her cell phone..... "whats this watchtower about?
, "........ lie # 2 ... she said she read it , but forgot "exactly" what the main points were about..
50+ years in, countless wt's read. Most of them, two days later, I would be hard pressed to tell you what's in one!
Now if I were heading out in fs, a quick once over, would have refreshed my memory.
After reading a few million of them, faking it is easy too!
Dwain