Posts by sillygirlforgotpassword

I have to say though, the Filipino sisters in our cong did a lot of door to door sales in the guise of preaching. Or was it vice versa?
When we first started studying the bible with the JW's,my mum joined a filipino regular pioneers sis in a day's preaching. (There were lots of zealous jw peeps, they were wonderful happy people, who think didn't always follow JW rules to the letter. No wonder they were the happier lot)

So anyway, mum went on this big preaching spree with this sister, but discovered that this sis was counting her RP hours while selling herbal products that were really illegal. Some of them were even aphrosaidiac. She hardly ever preached. SHe went from door to door with poor mum tagging along, and just tried to sell her herbs. Newly inducted mum was in a state of shock. She came home and decided she wasn't filipino preaching again.

Like I said, no wonder, they were happy heople.

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Why do you come here?

by love2Bworldly in

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i come here to learn, but i also come here because it feels like a private club and i'm privy to be a member of the "in" crowd.

it's a great place to socialize.

does anyone else feel that they are a member of a special "club" when they come here, that only some people in this world will understand the jw world?.

sillygirlforgotpassword

I think what Kate said is struck a huge chord with me. I never really had my own belief system. My values, sense of right and wrong, my freaking conscience were supposed to be tied to the WT rules. Coming out has been difficult in some ways because I then realized I saw bday celebrations, and xmas the same way I looked at lying, cheating and stealing. Needed and still need to hone my own conscience/

This lovely group has taught me a lot. I come here to read off experiences from others, who as some said "get it"! I come to get excited to see a newbie secretly hoping it's someone I know. So many genuinely nice people from my cong trapped in that relgion. I wonder what they would do if they saw through this scam.

Another reason I'm here is selfish. I need to "keep up". Since I skype with the folks pretty often, I must be careful about what I say to them. They imagine I'm still going to the meetings so I'll have to make sure I say the right things. Blondies comments you won't hear at the WT study are such a BIG help. Thank YOU blondie!!

Finally, I fantasize that some deep dark scandal potentially from a WT insider gets posted here.

So many reasons why I come here. Big hi-fiv3, hugs and bises to the amazing people that respond each time with kind words and real advice evertime I'm in a conundrum. Ur the heart and soul of this group.

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It's my birthday today

by Bruja-del-Sol in

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... but most of my new (post jw) friends either don't know my birth date (if people don't specifically ask i won't tell them), or they are 2500 kilometers away in the netherlands... so all that's left to celebrate with me are my hubby, the two doggies, cat and my two rabbits... mixed feelings, i miss my friends and family around and haven't found friends in spain yet.

luckily our daughter will visit us the end of the month... and yesterday we've found a new rental house and we're moving into it next month already!

i'm thrilled and really looking forward to it, then we will finally be able to let all the rest of our belongings come to spain (2/3 of our stuff is stored in the netherlands).. so with this in mind, i'll just say 'happy birthday to me' and will enjoy my third birthday in espana .

sillygirlforgotpassword

Joyeux anniversaire Bruja del Sol :D

Where in Spain are you at? Cities in Spain are so much livelier, friendlier and heartily fun (not to mention cheaper) than Paris

I want to celebrate my next birthday in the south of Spain :D

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Hi! I'm new here

by Powermetal4ever in

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thought i am gonna introduce myself.

i am a girl from a country in europe, and not an english speaking one, so if i am writing strange or something, you know why.

anyway, have been reading here for a while now, the other day i thought it was time to register as a member.

sillygirlforgotpassword

Ur funny Humbled xD

welcome powermetal! I'm a 20 something year old living in a country where English isn't the first language (niether is it mine!)

my parents were overbearing and still are :) I was dependent on them for ages but happy to be independent now. Welcome to this forum. May u find everything I've found here: relief that ur not alone, flabbergastedness at how we've been duped, a one way door out of a closed mind, empathy and don't forget fun and laughs :)

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Should I take the train?!

by DeWandelaar in

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there are times like this moment i think of taking a train to my final destination.

i know i have some unfinished business ( got a wife and kids though jw), but i am really done with it.

i hate my life.

sillygirlforgotpassword

Can you temporarily separate yourself from the stressful situation? Move out, so you have time and personal space to think and breathe?

There is no way I could have survived going through discovering the TATT when I lived with the famiily. You do need to get away, but not permanently for the sake of your own children. As you said, they'd never understand.

Take care, lots of people on this forum watch out for each other. We're watching out for you too!

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Paranoia of today's WT study!

by stuckinarut2 in

the wt study for sept 7th just breeds such a spirit of paranoia!.

using old biblical references just so as to prevent anyone from using critical thinking skills and analysing the "truth".. then using incorrect, leading reasoning to paint any who "think outside of the box" of the org as "apostate".... pure manipulation!.

sillygirlforgotpassword

Good luck sitting through that stuckinarut, I'd go crazy if I had to. Good pointers by Oubliette though, on the rare ocassion that I have to attend when visiting family, I will need to remember his advice!

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Paranoia of today's WT study!

by stuckinarut2 in

the wt study for sept 7th just breeds such a spirit of paranoia!.

using old biblical references just so as to prevent anyone from using critical thinking skills and analysing the "truth".. then using incorrect, leading reasoning to paint any who "think outside of the box" of the org as "apostate".... pure manipulation!.

sillygirlforgotpassword

When I was chatting with my sister today, she initiated a converstaion about the WT study. (I haven't looked at the article, wasn;t planning on doing so but played along). Here's how it went:

Sis: "Did you have a chance to read today's study article"

Me; "No not yet"

Sis: "It's about those who belong to Jehovah. I didn't understand it at first. I had to re-read it a few times before the points started falling in place. And I kept thinking there was something about the illustration on page 9 but I couldn't get it. Until I looked up 2 Tim 2: 18,19. And I think it was the first reference that it talked of how Paul warned Timothy about the apostate influence of Hymenaeus and Philetus. And I realized that they were two of the individuals in the illustration and it made sense" .

Me:

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shunning within the family.

by bigmac in

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i'm giving 3 examples of this practice--that i know of personally.. .

my first wife--born in--divorced me over 30 years ago.

she totally shuns our son--now 38--d/f'd and now happily married and enjoying life to the max.. my pioneer partner--from the mid 60's-----he totally shuns his daughter---to the point of even ignoring her in the street.. a close friend of mine--in the 60's and 70's-----i was best man at his wedding.

sillygirlforgotpassword

Haven't posted in forever but HAD to respond to this.

I lived with my family until I was 26 or 27. My older sister who lived in the same house, we even shared a room for some time, stopped talking to me when I was 17. She did it after a fight over something silly, but made it because she discovered I was having a double life, having a boyfriend and all. She just stopped talking to me. 10 whole years, she ignored me in the house, in our room, even when we were at the meetings. If I ever walked into a her with a group of sisters or brothers that was chatting about something random - she would walk away from the group as soon as I started to speak. It was so obvious, she didn't even try to hide it. Maybe she didn't like the sound of my voice or didn't want to hear what I had to say. My parents supported her because they too knew of my double life. They said she was following Jehovah's rules on shunning. My little brothers followed suit. Relatives (non-jw) would wonder why my other siblings joked and hung out together, I was always ignored. It was torture going to meetings with them in the same car, torture staying the same house. But I felt I deserved the treatment because of my concealed sins. I was never disfellowshipped, but the family took it on themselves to mete their own shunning treatment because they suspected I was up to no good.

I did live a very double life. At times I did honestly try to turn around and change and be the perfect witness but the shunning from the family reinforced my need for outside companionship and love, and thank goodness that in the end was one of the primary things that led me to the path of finding out the real truth about the truth.

Things are better between me and sis now. Time and distance (especially) has helped matters. We're not best friends, but we chat on whatsapp now and then. She's always looked out for me in her own way and I know I should be grateful for that, but the outright shunning has already done its damage. She's a missionary now, pioneering in a 3rd world country. Yesterday she asked me on whatsapp how many tracts I placed for the jw.org campaign. She's only chatting with me because she has no idea I'm not going to the meetings.

What a twisted world we live in. My own sister wouldn't talk to me when I lived home. I yearned for her acceptance, I yearned for her to just like me, talk to me, not walk away from a group the minute I joined it. And now that I have some of it I am pretending to be someone I'm not in the fear that I will lose her very conditional love.

Conditional love. From your own family. I can't wait to have my own children and break this cycle. Shunning ends with me.

Thank you for letting me write this :)