a friend of mine visited australia and to his surprise there were no jw carts on streets.. wonder if it was just a coincidence or is it due to media attention that arc has created?.
Carts are alive and kicking and in fact, Congs are awaiting shipments to
double or triple the carts currently in use..people are catching on to the
easiest way to count time. Sit on a bench sipping coffee. I saw 3 guys doin this
just yesterday.
jtg
(edit)ps Your friend must have been in lesser cart bombed areas.
there were always all types of speakers in the org.
myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.
other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.
Ha Ha
Same sh#t different As% Hole
JTG
yes, last week the number of bethel layoffs was confirmed from 90 to 125. .
and those going in thinking they may be there for some time have been told.
that they may be there for two months rather than 3 years depending on .
Hi All,
Yes, last week the number of Bethel Layoffs was confirmed from 90 to 125.
And those going in thinking they may be there for some time have been told
that they may be there for two months rather than 3 years depending on
operational requirements.
Regards
jtg
P.S. By the way as we understand it there were app. 350 folk there prior to the
layoffs.
Have a good evening Aussies
there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.
south africa.
united states.
a good source just just told me that at morning worship today that the governing body announced that a total of 1600 bethelites will be let get go and not transferred to warwich when the last property is sold in brooklyn and all kingdom hall building projects are on hold for at least a year so that all the focus will be on the preaching work.
Similar situation here in Australia. Although no mention
of KHall construction on hold yet
jtg
i think possibly their are a few valid reasons for either options to this question ,depending on a number of factors .. such as how old you might be, how long you have devoted your life to the "truth" as you believed it .
?....how it may affect your mental/physical health and well being.?.
how it will affect your financial position in your life ,?
I love the question Smiddy.
And i'm in Oz.
And i cannot but attempt to address the 'dot points' Old enough to have been plucked out of education due to 1975. 23 years born in at that time and lasted till 34 yrs. At the risk of a psychological melt down i walked,,,,,, into the arms of the homosexual community that accepted me as a human being,,, that was an enlightenment. i am a hetro male of the species by the way. Given that i went on to enjoy life after the wt was brilliant. I moulded a life for me, i wallowed in the freedom that really exists apart from wt stalag 13. Ok, life as a single person can be lonely irrespective of any ecclesiastical views. but i moved forward and out of the restrictive mind controlling gb inspired fears, and i realised it was a dream never to come true. Now however (4 years ago) I've tried to have another shot at "making the truth my own" Ha Ha famous last words. Never good to be ignorant. I did the research after i was reinstated to get the bottom line. thats when the reality started to become evident. Goodness me !!!!! as it happens I dont have family relationships to deal with and I genuinely empathise with those that do. I have, however made some genuine friends during my 'return' and i worry for them given that I now know the 'bottom line' So for now i'm gonna play it cool and go with the flow and slowly help my friends to see the tatt. Tell Ya what Smiddy as you know ... stickin youre head in the sand does not work.
jtg
ive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.
in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..
Yep wouldn't work.
How dey gonna keep da secret boys club in their own
lunchbox intact?
jtg
ive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.
in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..
So then,
Even if they cannot be "appointed" as a 'helper' certain tasks could be performed.
Could they for example be the cobe's helper or the service overseer helpers?
the eldub has say 3 'positions' but the female 'helpers' do the hard work???
Sound department 'helpers'? Heaven knows many do the stuff for older
computer illiterate and organisationally bereft males.
Dunno, juz wondering.
jtg (lookin for loopholes)
ive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.
in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..
@ dozy,
Hey the use of the word HELPER jumps outta da page at me.
Are't they using the term for speakers at conventions?
Like "governing body helper"
I'm now wondering...... co's wives? eldubs wives? special female bethelites?
Females from the translation dept?? Female pioneers??
As for me I'm all for it,,,,da gender bias unsettles my bowels and
overworks my anal orifice,,ha ha..
jtg
ok so... how to condense all the flip-flops and doctrinal changes, and show graphically how the different doctrines changed, and when?.
ttatt in a can!!.
enjoy ;).
Mate, this is fantastic. Thanks for taking the time.
Going to come in REAL handy.
jtg
