Hey NikL
I'm with you on that, I do likewise and it really wakes you up to the convenient 'translation to suit a certain belief system'. I picked up on the 'exercise faith verses believe point' too.
jtg
for those that still care to read the bible of course.
those that don't, please keep the snarky comments to yourselves :-).
i am assuming nwt is not very popular?.
Hey NikL
I'm with you on that, I do likewise and it really wakes you up to the convenient 'translation to suit a certain belief system'. I picked up on the 'exercise faith verses believe point' too.
jtg
moses has a history of what 80+ years as a servant of jehovah ?
in one form or another .. moses wrote / penned the first five books of the bible and went through many trials and tribulations in serving his god jehovah in his long lifetime.interacting with god at times.. jesus was born and nothing is recorded of him until he is a young adolescent child ?
and very little about him.. then we are introduced to him when he is 30 years old and gets baptised ,and only then does he start his preaching .. does he start preaching to the world ?
I really enjoy your posts and the logical development you employ. I would only add a very significant point.
By my calculations i rekon he would have worn out at least 6 pairs of sandals if not more based on a mate of mine that walked hundreds of kilometres in thongs and knew they were good for 500 k's. So I rekon leather should double that....... I need a scripture . Mate, I'm with you on this. It don't make sense.
You are the kind of bloke that sharing a beer with would transcend the piffle that is thrust upon those of us in the process of slip sliding away.
Thank you
jtg
hi all, kind of news i suppose.. fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall.
1,266 in attendance.. two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.. costs for the day, $6,951:00 .
before costs contribution to sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00. jtg.
No Steve2, the expected was about 1150 I was told but there were "border hoppers" I was informed by some long standing die hards.
jtg
doctrines projected by wt writers can be compared to the slides in the old carousel slide shows, the jw audience was kept in the dark, but the next images' bright filtered new light had their rapt attention.
often these doctrine images came around again but modified, often totally changed, turned upside down.
think superior authorities, resurrection ----, .
Composite !? Or Compost ?
jtg
dear friends,.
once again my depression has got the better of me and i must bow out for a time.. "the angels sang glory to god in the highest and on earth peace unto men of goodwill'.
so if that means at this special time of the year then have a happy and safe christmas time all of you.. hugs.
Take good care zeb, dig deep, I've been through those times and did make it through. So, mate, my thoughts and heartfelt feelings are for you to be as strong as you can be in the situation you are in.
Tomorrow is a bran nue dai.
Peace to you man.
jtg
hi all, kind of news i suppose.. fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall.
1,266 in attendance.. two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.. costs for the day, $6,951:00 .
before costs contribution to sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00. jtg.
Yep, thats why we need all that money for new k halls.
No mention of the elephant, but i hear the deafening silence. Oh, and "the governing body are directing all of you to review the dec 2015 broadcast regarding using all tools available for spiritual advancement" Thats wots wrong apparently, "you've lost the love you had at first" I have pretty much had a gutfull. Especially when I take the same critical view of these teachings as jw's tell others to do. Things take on such a clearer perspective when you research what the scriptures say, the translation issues and the tendancy to translate to support your own belief system.
I believe more people are awake than we realise from my own observations.
And The bethel speaker ( allan wood) made an interesting application to some words paul uttered about the ministry and the relief ministry,,,, went on to encourage financial support for the relief ministry. I will try to find the scripture. I'm sure some scholars on here and the context itself would challenge that application.
jtg
Edit
I found it,, 2 Cor 5:18 ,,,,, the preaching ministry.
2 Cor 8:4 ,,,,,,,, disaster relief ministry. mmmmmmm
hi all, kind of news i suppose.. fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall.
1,266 in attendance.. two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.. costs for the day, $6,951:00 .
before costs contribution to sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00. jtg.
Hi all, kind of news i suppose.
fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall. 1,266 in attendance.
Two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.
Costs for the day, $6,951:00
Before costs contribution to Sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00
jtg
...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?
historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.
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Yes indeed 'Cold Steel'. Many.... Perhaps I should rephrase my statement. The gb are incapable of giving straight answers to anything. Hence my assertion that any question would not get a straight honest biblical answer.
jtg.
...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?
historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.
.
No such question exists in my view. There are no straight answers.
jtg.
it appears the the commonwealth government is bringing in a national compensation scheme for victims of institutional child sexual abuse with individuals able to claim up to $150,000 each.
it's clear that the australian government will not be able to fund this program without serious money from the offending churches.
so it's bad news for the organization today.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-04/government-announces-redress-for-abuse-victims/7996092.
all australian watchtower and awakes are already being printed in japan as well as a heap of other items
jtg