Posts by jonahstourguide

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

jonahstourguide

Weren't any stumbled where I was, we just wondered what dictionary definition

he was using, and what else he may have been. Da fing is, there is a considerable amount of disquiet evident within the org today.

As we all "study our heritage" we become abundantly aware of the increase in human inconsistency

within the org that has origins going back many decades. And don't come back with the imperfect men like David bit.

BTW, during the consideration of this article the deafening silence of pioneers' answer's in the hall was eerie.

jtg

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

jonahstourguide

But Brother Mike, I still vividly recall the words of a D.O.

on dealing with the accusation of brainwashing.

"What's wrong with being brainwashed ????"

"I'm happy to be brainwashed if it gives me eternal life!!"

Be happy Bro Mike !!!

jtg still figuring that one ou t

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Britain scanned KM's wanted - Can you oblige?

by KateWild in

i am having a littertrash break for a couple of months.

the nonsense irates me.. as far as teaching my son critical thinking skills, i do know i have to keep up with the congregation "bile" study, the misery school and circus meeting items.

christmas and his b-day is sorted for this month.

jonahstourguide

I have the Australia/ New Zealand issue and they are

identical to U.S.A. apart from the last announcements section

which is localised.

jtg

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Interesting changes for the 2014 service meeting...

by OneDayillBeFree in

if you look at the first page of the kingdom ministry for december (link here), read the talk entitled: "the theocratic ministry school for 2014".

here is a copy of what it says (bold & red mine).

talk by the school overseer.

jonahstourguide

Bit like the resurrection shuffle on Gomorrah.

The Live Forever book in cdlib was updated to say no whereas

the Insight Vol 2 still states yes. You really need to double check

all wt references to see which one is the latest correct view.

I'm still in but am finding difficulty with the "driving standards stewards"

Its all a bit like CAMS they've got rules and statutes but don't know how

to apply them and when. ,,,,,, Confederation of Australian Motor Sport, that is

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Interesting changes for the 2014 service meeting...

by OneDayillBeFree in

if you look at the first page of the kingdom ministry for december (link here), read the talk entitled: "the theocratic ministry school for 2014".

here is a copy of what it says (bold & red mine).

talk by the school overseer.

jonahstourguide

Julia,

It stops any who don't keep up with new light using p 234 first paragraph in rs book

on explanation of last days. " and some of the generation alive then (1914) will also be

on hand to witness its (wicked system of things) complete end in the "great tribulation.

jtg its old light here but the first thing I looked for,,, lol.

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I asked an elder today...from the horse's mouth!

by Julia Orwell in

jw
friends

today's watchtower made out that the combining of branch offices around the world is a loving provision from jehovah to streamline the production, but i had to ask an elder afterwards, even though i already knew the answer.... "if the wts is selling off bethels and brooklyn property and cutting the publishing costs and commitments, then where is all that money going?".

elder replies, "well the donations are just not coming in anymore and so they have to sell off property to stay afloat.".

gee, i thought if this was jehovah's approved organisation carrying vital truth to the world, then he'd be making sure the donations would be sufficient.

jonahstourguide

Hi Julia fyi

Searching for something else and came across this thread.

I am in Oz and in 2011 the non profit financial return showed that

$18,388,395.00 was received in donations. Up from $13,378,741.00

in year ended August 2010.

Donations and overseas aid (outgoings) was $ 4,720,856.00, this

amount was apart from the rest being spent in oz for

teaching, evangelizing and bethel services.

doc i.d. 027755824 abn 42 002 861 225 page 13 0f 22

Regards

jtg

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"Speed of light broken" CERN lab Geneva

by designs in

in what could be a major breakthrough in physics and how we understand reality.

scientists at the cern lab recorded neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light.

the telegragh ran the story www.telegragh.co.uk.

jonahstourguide

Can't wait for that to appear in a wt to expose the lying world of science

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So, here's a new definition of 'apostacy'

by ItsMyLife in

jw
friends

if you allow your child to have a part in the nativity play, it's apostacy.

even if the child just stands there, dressed as a an animal.

with no lines.. even if you've been inactive for several months.. talk about extremes and emotional blackmail!.

jonahstourguide

Well ItsMyLife, I empathise with you, I also was a born in and we really didn't fully understand

what was being thrust upon us. We did what we were told. We should have got a medal for that.

Sadly, rules are more important in their eyes than torn emotions and struggle. You are in the

right place for encouragement and support even if the posts are sometimes seemingly cold.

Ultimately the folks here reach out and feel your pain and want to help as best they can,

and we pick up a few linguistic skills on the way !!!! lol

Heartfelt regards to you

jtd

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Could we quantify how many posters their are from different nations ? Would you like to know ?

by smiddy in

maybe its just me , i`m just curious as to how many people on this site are from australia as i am .

how many from germany , italy , zambia , etc.

etc.. do two or three "countries " seem to dominate the threads ?

jonahstourguide

I come from a land down under ,,,,,,

can you feel can you feel the thunder

ya better run ya better take cover

Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree !!!

does bigger poo's than most birdies

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So, here's a new definition of 'apostacy'

by ItsMyLife in

jw
friends

if you allow your child to have a part in the nativity play, it's apostacy.

even if the child just stands there, dressed as a an animal.

with no lines.. even if you've been inactive for several months.. talk about extremes and emotional blackmail!.

jonahstourguide

well, given the meaning of apostasy, the idea of the fictitional nativity play and participating therein,

goes against the "accepted" religious belief that you by default agree to when you used to be active

as it is construed in the above A word.

Become a member of any organisation and dont abide by their rules of association and

see what happens???? My point being where is the delineation between the jw and any other org.

I've been a lefty for many years, protesting against the wrongs of society. Join us and waver....

you is out. That is why it's so important for all to make people aware of what they are getting in to....

"read the constitution".

Thats my two bobs worth