I have skype, and I am in the UK send me a pm with your skype details if you need to chat. Kate xx
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Leaving the JWs, experiencing Christianity and finding freedom! (But it took awhile)
by im_free inthis is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
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Satan is not mentioned in Gen 3. A snake spoke to Eve. Its an ancient creation myth in which there is no Satan. He is not connected with the serpent until the NT.-cofty
I agree Satan is not mentioned, but as I said the serpent is. The whole of Gen chapter 3 introduces the concepts of good and bad, right and wrong, honesty and lies. The chapter was written with the intent of saying that doing something different from what God says is wrong. It is written in very concrete terms and is a load of nonesense. I do believe evil people exist though. Greedy, selfish, inconsiderate people.
Kate xx
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Good point Oub, the more they try and be different the more they look identical to other cults. The whole image wreaks of bad practice, advertising and making money. Kate xx
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Up yours!!! Jw religion!!
by Julia Orwell ini just got a job teaching in a school run by moderate muslims.
the students are muslim and do their prayers at school and have daily quran lessons.
my job is to teach art, english literacy and literature, and history.
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Thanks for sharing Julia, I hope you land a more permanent position soon. Kate xx
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Is the AGM today?
by hamsterbait inanybody going or who can give us the noolite hot from the gb a$$?.
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Great thread, I enjoyed it. Thanks Hamsterbait for starting it and thanks Absolom for live posting from the AGM. Kate xx
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Now the New UK Bethel has a Web Site
by Slidin Fast inyep, more internet usage.
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http://www.templefarmdevelopment.co.uk.
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Great find. Notice how the web designer is an outsourced company. I wonder why they felt the need to do this, the site seems very JWish with a hint of non-JW influence. It probably is all about the money. It always is.
Kate xx
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Leaving the JWs, experiencing Christianity and finding freedom! (But it took awhile)
by im_free inthis is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
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Satan does not exist in the earliest parts of the OT before the Babylonian exile. Everything was attributed to Yahweh - good and evil.-cofty
I disagree the serpent was mentioned in Gen Ch 3, the rest of the bible refers to him being the father of the lie, Satan the Devil. It's evil to lie, hence the bible introduces evil straight away. In the first chapter of Job, satan has a conversation with God, the whole book of Job features Satan.
The point is do we belive what the bible teaches about evil. As I think that God is indifferent to us I likewise feel there is no evil force that cares about what we do. I do believe that people can be selfish, greedy, inconsiderate and hurtful. These types of people are evil. But people can also be the opposite.
Kate xx
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Leaving the JWs, experiencing Christianity and finding freedom! (But it took awhile)
by im_free inthis is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
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Welcome Im_free, thank you for your story. You and your wife have certainly had an interesting journey since the 90's. I too believe in God the creator but, I cannot accept he is a benevolent God that cares about us. I don't believe in the God of the Bible, I don't belive that is was from God at all.
Kate xx
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Whatever happened has a lesson for us!
by Kalos inwhen my dad left jws, his stoic remark was: it was not a total wastage; after all i learned something good about the witnessestheir resolve to continue with their original claim that they are the appointed channel of god, even when they know in their heart of hearts that they are not.
why cant i imitate that sort of resolve in doing something worthwhile?
he thus echoed confucius who said: to be wronged is nothing unless you continue to remember it.. a poor choice we made, some obstructions or some resistance are almost always viewed with fear and anxiety.
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Don't worry! You will get it later-Kalos
Just because you wrote something down, and you understand it, it doesn't mean it will make sense to everyone that reads it. Your response is condesending, as if you are more experienced and knowledgeable than me. I will never understand what you wrote and you did not write it in way that it makes sense. It has no real point to it.
Kate xx