Welcome on board. I love you nick name - because I love the films about them.
Thanks for the video.
hi friends!.
i normally post over on /r/exjw but i've been reading more and more over here on this forum and found it incredibly supportive and informative.
i hope to participate in this community and become an active member.
Welcome on board. I love you nick name - because I love the films about them.
Thanks for the video.
i ask because my gf, who knows all about my jw upbringing, convinced me to grow a goatee, just to see how it looks.
we both decided it looked good so i decided to keep it.
i tried to explain to her that as a jw, i wasn't allowed to grow one, but then drew a blank when she asked me why.
*** w75 8/15 pp. 500-501 par. 9 Do Not Let Yourself Be Ensnared by Fads and Entertainment ***
9 Extreme hair styles can easily lead one into a trap of the Devil also, and cause others to stumble. For example, a young man in the United States was making fine progress in his study of the Bible, and he was moved to share with an experienced Witness in preaching to others about the good things he was learning from the Bible. From early youth he had let his beard grow, and since some in the business community wore beards, he felt that his wearing one in preaching to others would be acceptable generally. But in speaking to a lady he was unable to do more than introduce himself, when she said: “I’m sorry, young man, I do not want to become involved in student revolt.” No amount of explanation after this sufficed to clear up the misimpression. After the conversation ended with the closing of the door, he asked the experienced Witness what had happened. He was invited to consider his appearance in relation to what he claimed to be, a servant of God. Not wanting to be responsible for even one person’s being stumbled so as to miss the way to everlasting life, this new Kingdom publisher shaved off his beard. Would you be willing to do the same or to make similar adjustments if your appearance gave the wrong impression in a certain community?
*** yb74 pp. 97-98 Part 1—Germany ***
But more equipment was needed. For that reason Brother Balzereit asked Brother Rutherford for permission to buy a rotary press. Brother Rutherford saw the necessity and agreed, but on one condition. He had noticed that over the years Brother Balzereit had grown a beard very similar to the one that had been worn by Brother Russell. His example soon caught on, for there were others who also wanted to look like Brother Russell. This could give rise to a tendency toward creature worship, and Brother Rutherford wanted to prevent this. So during his next visit, within hearing of all the Bible House family, he told Brother Balzereit that he could buy the rotary press but only on the condition that he shave off his beard. Brother Balzereit sadly agreed and afterward went to the barber. During the next few days there were several cases of mistaken identity and some funny situations because of the “stranger” who was sometimes not recognized by his fellow workers.
i've been away from the boards so long that i had to create a new account but recent events have brought me back - i've missed this place!
anyway, i heard a former witness being interviewed the other day that said the witnesses were now being highly discouraged to read the bible by itself (without wt literature) on their own.
this seems over the top even for the witnesses.
In addition to blondies quotations here are some newer ones:
*** w81 2/15 p. 17 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***
A HUMAN CHANNEL
From such experiences it can be seen that Jehovah God caused the Bible to be written in such a way that one needs to come in touch with His human channel before one can fully and accurately understand it. True, we need the help of God’s holy spirit, but its help also comes to us primarily by association with the channel Jehovah God sees fit to use.—1 Cor. 2:6-10.
*** w90 12/1 p. 19 par. 13 How Can We Respond Unselfishly to God’s Love? ***
Let us face the fact that no matter how much Bible reading we have done, we would never have learned the truth on our own. We would not have discovered the truth regarding Jehovah, his purposes and attributes, the meaning and importance of his name, the Kingdom, Jesus’ ransom, the difference between God’s organization and Satan’s, nor why God has permitted wickedness.
it seems they do have a database!
!you can view it here on the royal commission website:.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
direct download-link for the "Analysis Summary - Comments and Verifiction":
it seems they do have a database!
!you can view it here on the royal commission website:.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
I transfered the PDF into a Excel database.
Feel free to download it: https://www.sendspace.com/file/o497qh
https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.
i pressed all the wrong buttons.
here it is, posted about an hour ago..
I transfered the PDF into a Excel database.
Feel free to download it: https://www.sendspace.com/file/o497qh
For download click the blue downloadbutton:
wt obviously must realize now the value of those that tried to enforce change on them.
i think if it wasn't for these people doing what they did wt would be in even more drama now.
so my question is do you ever think wt would voluntarily reinstate and publicly apologize to bill bowen and barbara anderson for all their hard work in bringing reform.
Apologize to this two?
Never. Rather, they cite:
*** w79 3/1 p. 24 par. 15 To Whom Shall We Go but Jesus Christ? ***
For those who truly love God’s law there is no stumbling block.—Ps. 119:165.
several years ago i was given a link to a pdf download of a compilation file that included all letters from the borg to elders and congregations from - i think - 1980 through 2011. does anybody have an updated version, or can point me to a source for letters from 2012 to the present?
i would prefer a single document but even a site that has them all one by one would be ok. thanks!
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
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I loved when they went through the article with the model on what turns someone into a pedophile.......
The Report: "Conceptualising the prevention of child sexual abuse"
The Model: "Finkelhor’s Four Preconditions Model" - starting on page 30
Here is the link: https://aifs.gov.au/sites/default/files/publication-documents/rr33.pdf
this is from conti's appeal veredict:.
monica applewhite, a clinical social worker and an expert on child sexual abuse, testified for defendants that watchtowers policy against disclosing private information .
very closely mirror[ed] the codes of ethics of the national association of social workers and the american counseling association.
Viva la Vida
This is from Conti's appeal veredict:
.....Appelwhite opined that its best means of protecting children was to educate parents about child sexual abuse, and it exceeded the standard of care for such education in the 1990’s.
Today she tried to go the same way - also the JW lawyer in the end.
BUT the commission made clear, that it's not a competition and not a question, who was better. The point is, what is wrong in the JW procedure and what has to be changed.