Satan and his demons were cast out of heaven into earth. What a loving Arrangement.
AS if the earth has less of Problems. THis is just like a loving dad sending serial killers to his childrens home.
EverApostate
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Have you ever considered how bizarre the idea of "War in Heaven" really is?
by TerryWalstrom inwhen you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.
easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.
why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.
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Anybody here still believe in the bible?
by Mel Morris ini'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.
i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.
i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.
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EverApostate
AS you had requested, this site has a lot of good insights into the bible.
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Have you ever considered how bizarre the idea of "War in Heaven" really is?
by TerryWalstrom inwhen you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.
easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.
why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.
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@venus
You have good points
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Have you ever considered how bizarre the idea of "War in Heaven" really is?
by TerryWalstrom inwhen you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.
easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.
why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.
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After all, humans can make an evil person powerless in a matter minutes, hours or days.
The almighty that created the mighty galaxies, star clusters and stuff, cant make Satan powerless in an instant ?
How childish to believe in this “War in heaven” story ? Written for idiots to believe, by a Psycho.
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Are YOU Shunned By JW Family or Friends?
by minimus insome who are not disfellowshipped are still shunned i also know there’ are disfellowshipped ones that family still associate with..
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When I started to show signs of Apostasy(, after having known TTATT), a group of my so called JW associates (All Indians and belong to my state –Tamilnadu), invited me and my wife for dinner. Two of the elders took me to their basement and made me to confess that whether I would like to continue as a faithful JW or not. I said I no longer can be a JW but still would like to continue my friendship with them
They immediately said that they would no longer associate with me and told me to leave. My wife and I left heart broken.
A year later, I wrote my disassociation letter.
Happily my JW wife and mom treat me as usual. That’s a lucky thing for me until now
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Bible comes alive if we look for meaning behind the symbols it uses
by Ireneus inbible contains too much human thinking presented as though from god, thus much of its information brings dishonor to god.. yet it contains great beneficial truths behind the symbols it uses.
let us take the only two cases of miracles jesus performed without any request from anybody which would show the very purpose of his ministry:.
1) jesus healed a woman who “was bent over and could not straighten up at all.” (luke 13:11-13).
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EverApostate
Ireneus,
Do you belong to the Art of living Ravi Shankar religion ?
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Is There Life After Death
by Brokeback Watchtower ini think this is a well developed discussion, of ian stevenson's work in investigating people's past lives claims.
it's a little long.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0attm9hgcdw.
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Why humans believe that they are superior to other species, in the aspect of living forever ?
It’s the fear of death and nothingness after it, which makes them believe in an afterlife. IMO.
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Why the term "waking up?"
by Sour Grapes inis the term "waking up" the best way to describe when a jdub starts to have doubts?
to me, it is rather that a jdub realizes that what they have believed for years was a pack of lies and then they have to make a conscious decision if they want to continue to believe in lies or stop being a jdub or just go along for the ride.. it just amazes me how many die-hard jdubs there are despite every failed prophecy about the end coming, the borg being a part of the dreaded wild best united nations, the put down of women in the borg, the massive cover-up of the child abuse in the borg, the willingness to let a child die because they need blood, and the eagerness to shun a child who at the age of 10 got dunked to make mommy and daddy happy only to not want to be a jdub later and have the parents treat them like they are dead because 8 overweight, balding, goofy looking, incoherent men in upper state new york say that are the rules for being a christain.. jehovah's witnesses are a very sad cult that attracts people with emotional, psychological, or medical issues, have very large egos, can't make simple decisions, and believe in the tooth fairy..
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EverApostate
Waking up involves sleep. Sleep is a good thing. Sleep refreshes and rejuvenates, occassionaly with some bad dreams. But sleep is essential for every living thing(AS I know of)
Sober is a term I like better. Cult is a place where you get drugged , intoxicated, dull minded, hallucinated or cannot think properly. Once Sober you start to think in reality and in clear terms.
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Jesus tempted by Satan, real or just a vision.
by pleaseresearch innot with their shunning policy.
me and my brother seldom communicate sadly, but no way would we go anywhere for fear of being seen with an inactive jw for over 10 years.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-simplified-march-2016/questions-from-readers/.
from the website:.
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@venus, Yes the Book of Job is total non sense. The most high in the universe has a bet with the most evil, in order to prove a point, at the cost and suffering of numerous Lives
Job's numerous servants are killed, along wih this children. And Christians gloss over this and try to find a moral in this story. Pity on them
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Jesus tempted by Satan, real or just a vision.
by pleaseresearch innot with their shunning policy.
me and my brother seldom communicate sadly, but no way would we go anywhere for fear of being seen with an inactive jw for over 10 years.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-simplified-march-2016/questions-from-readers/.
from the website:.
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EverApostate
smiddy3, Neil Armstrong standing on the moon and looking back at the earth would not be able to see all the kingdoms of the world
You nailed it.