Posts by EverApostate

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Using history as a means to pinpoint possible future events.

by HealthySkeptic in

the purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.

i am an active jw.

the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.

EverApostate

I have read many funny topics about Russell being a free mason or being instrumental in the skull and bones. Today you can pick your flavor of "conspiracy theories". Don't believe everything you read. Do the research yourself. This also includes what I type. Look into it yourself

HealthySkeptic,

In response to your above quote, Why is CT Russel's Tomb in Pennsylvania adorned by a Mini Pyramid ? I have seen this myself.

Your Jealous God Jehovah remained silent when his name was removed from his own holy book, until 1900 years ? This has been a question that has been disturbing me, even while I was a JW

Are you thoroughly convinced by your religions blood policies and its effects ?

Do you know of Watchtowers membership with the United Nations for 11 years ?

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What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

by Ponyo in

.....the truth was not the truth... ?

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EverApostate

I had these nagging questions, while still a devout JW.

Why is it that so many good people out there not accepting the teachings of JWs.

Will every non JW good soul be destroyed at Armageddon. My mother in law is a good protestant christian but never accepted the Watchtower teachings at all. I could not accept that she would be killed in Armageddon.
Noah's flood. How can so many fit into the ark ? The flood waters covered the highest mountains - Mt Everest. That means Noah's cruise club inside the ark should have had Oxygen masks to breathe at such an Altitude.

And then came the 607 BC investigation which started off everything, followed by the blood fractions, Organ transplants, vaccinations, Beth Sarim, Generations... truck load of Failed prophecies, self righteousness of the GB... UNO Secret tie and plastering when caught, Finally the truth has set me free.

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In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name

by slimboyfat in

i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.

he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).

he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.

EverApostate

Jehovah wants his name to be Vindicated but cant even preserve his (Exact) name in his own holy book, for 1875 years ???!!!

Moreover Vindicate means "clear (someone) of blame or suspicion". How can the Almighty, all powerful, all wise, all loving be blamed ? If Satan blamed the almighty, doesn't everyone know that Satan is the father of lies. With such a scenario why does anyone want to take Satan Seriously and why does Jah needs to Vindicate his name ?

What a load of Crap.

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Everlasting life on a stick

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

i think the watchtower is the only organization that can promise a product (everlasting life) and never deliver it.. what fools we've been to believe this nonsense..

EverApostate

All religions promise some sort of Bliss that is not attainable in this world but would make you eligible for that only when you join and serve their religion.

I admit I too had been a fool to believe this package of nonsense for 11 years but happy that finally realized for what it is.

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

EverApostate

waton .

Yeah, got your point. Even travelling at the speed of light it would have been several weeks/months/years to get the ransom and benefits approved from Heaven - to and fro - and hence all the resurrected died due to this delay

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

EverApostate

The resurrected saints as per Matthew 27:51-53 were post ransom beneficiaries and all should be alive today.Pr JWs cannot dodge them as pre - ransom

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Who goes to heaven?

by theplains in

hello,i found this on the jw site.https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/go-to-heaven/it says:"jesus said: "no man has ascended into heaven.

(john 3:13) he thus showedthat good people who died before him, such as abraham, moses, job, and david,did not go to heaven.

(acts 2:29, 34).

EverApostate

Trying hard to research and determine which Religion's heaven is the best and planning ahead for my spot.

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Why should WE be the bloodguilty ones??

by stuckinarut2 in

it struck me just how odd and weird it is that jws are told that if they do not preach, they are "bloodguilty" for failing to warn people of the upcoming destruction at armageddon.. hang on a minute now, hang on!.

why should a mere human be made to feel "bloodguilty" and "responsible" for "failing to warn someone" of gods wrath??.

these average people are not the ones who are about to unleash a genocidal massacre on 99% of humanity (including babies born to non-witnesses).

EverApostate

Why cant the myriads of angels go and preach / convert and save people ? People would believe without any doubts. Wouldn't they ?

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Watchtower Study Today from August 2017 issue " Wait Patiently"

by BluesBrother in

theme scripture , james 5 v 8 abbreviated to " you too, exercise patience".

(i guess we know what to expect now) .

" how long?

EverApostate

Good Point sir82.

I would always try to reason out with a JWs with this , but not with the statistical figure, which I have now.

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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

by Jules Saturn in

so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

EverApostate

Generation for JWs

The supposed Jesus or whoever assured all these things, in Mark 13 and Mathew was highly deluded. Also, if a leader promises to a crowd that whatever he foretells will be fulfilled in this generation means, the generation of the people standing before him. As simple as that. Any other interpretation is nonsense.