EverApostate

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  Anyone know the significance of the three days and nights Jesus is dead?

  by Crazyguy in

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  in my studies i’ve come to realize that most dying and rising gods such as inanna, jesus and others all were dead three days and nights.

  the moon is dead as far as man not being able to see it in the sky three days and nights but many of these gods are not associated with the moon, osiris maybe being the only exception.

  have any of you in your research come up with a plausible idea on why there all dead just threes days and three nights?.

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  EverApostate

  Its all Myth, copied from some other earlier myths. Hence......
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  J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. beliefs

  when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

  without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

  no communication systems operating .

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  I was once told by an elder that Armageddon Survivors won’t miss their dead (non JW) friends and relatives in the new world because Jah would wipe their minds off their memories.

  Feel like throwing up when I think of this now.
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  What Privileges do you get when you are baptized ?

  by LOLS in

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  2. beliefs

  my husband was baptized at the recent 2018 convention in south africa ....... he was very annoyed that his non-believing wife did not attend the baptism....... but i think he received pressure from his jw father & elders as to why his wife was not attending ....... anyway ..... it's really water off my back .

  i wanted to know what privileges you get as a baptized jw man , as i saw a message from one of the elders at his cong , congratulating him on his baptism and to earning more privileges ..... what are these privileges the elder is speaking about ,,,,, .

  i don't feel like asking my husband as it just lands up in a stupid fight ..... or a long winded explanation ..... thanks .

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  EverApostate

  Privilege is a misnomer in the JW world. In simple terms, that is Free Labor you provide to the Watchtower.

  Recruiting others, which is called Field Service, Congregational responsibilities which includes a whole ton of activities for the WT, preparing for meetings and conventions and free Labor during conventions are all termed as Privileges in JW dom.
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  Dis-fellowshipped For Not Going To The Kingdom Hall You Are Assigned Too

  by new boy in

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  my parents started attending the glendora congregation in 1961. my mother had a strange feeling about the congregation.

  there was something going on there that just didn’t feel right.

  there was a huge exodus going on of people leaving this congregation’s kingdom hall too.

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  When I got myself Disassociated they announced as “So and so is no longer one of a Jehovah’s Witness”. They announce the same ambiguous way, either for Disfellowshipping or to any who gets disassociated.

  This is a clever tactic to keep the Congregation thinking that this guy might have Sinned Seriously and hence shun her/him. It also prevents the congregation to investigate why this guy got Disassociated himself and hence prevent them from knowing TTATT.

  Cunning as a pack of Foxes.
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  Do Jehovah`s Witnesses lie to receive Government benefits ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  jehovah`s witnesses do not respect the ,governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member.

  the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions govt`s, hand out to their citizens.after all the govts, are under the control of satan the devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with god.. so they feel justified in practicing deception as they the gov`ts.

  being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.. i personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the govt.

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  I too know a few brothers and sisters who were deliberatley "Pioneeering" , taking Unemployement benefits as well Disablity benefits, even though they were more healthier than me
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  Dec 2018 Watchtower Third Heaven & Paradise

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a qfr in the watchtower asks ".

  n what sense was the apostle paul “caught away to the third heaven” and “into paradise”?​—2 cor.

  they've been flip flopping regarding this, stating that it is paul talking about himself to paul talking about the congregation and back again to paul talking about himself.it appears that three years ago david splane gave a talk during the convention explaining their latest ideas and it has taken all this time for it to get into print.

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  I firmly believe that Paul was a self-deluded guy with a serious mental illness. That explains all the heavens.
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  Do you think Ruthaford is buried at Beth Sharim?

  by blownaway in

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  no one really knows where ruthaford is buried.

  there is some word of mouth evidence that he is buried under the garage of beth sarim.

  i think he is under the garage.

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  Holy GB has a burial cemetery, especially for them? That’s News for me.

  That's an anointed holy pilgrim site I should visit for sure, to be blessed.

  But why can’t they be cremated - which is less expensive - as they would be resurrected anyway to join the 144K "Never defiled by women" crowd.
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  JWs and 9-11. What was your reaction when it happened?

  by kairos in

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  it was shocking.. all these years later, i found myself crying for the dead for the first time..

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  Arrived to my new Office 8AM. I had joined there a week before and was still staying in a hotel in Pennsylvania.

  9:00 AM a lot of commotion in office, with all my peers watching the tv.

  9:30 AM. All Employees told to leave.

  When I came out giant Helicopters were flying, possibly towards New york or Washington. Scary to watch.

  Came to my hotel and saw the twin towers attacked and colllapsing, on TV, along with the attack on the Pentagon.

  Kneeled down and prayed to Jehovah. Felt that Armeggadon was imminent.

  After that, I was waiting for the WT to print magazines on 9/11 , which eventually came out as Awakes.

  A lot of rumours after that. THat the WT is getting ready for an imminent Armeggadon, work is speeding up and all those cult nonsense.
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  Time matters

  by I Faded Twice in

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  a few years back i was in a meeting between fades and it was the co visit.

  he said something i thought was crazy and a lot of jws buy into this mentality.

  i don't remember the talk but he asked this question.. what if this isn't the truth?

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  EverApostate

  Thats a good math, wasting our lives for a cult.

  Here is a shortened version of mine.

  Even if this isn’t the truth isn’t your Life clean and peaceful. We Don’t lose anything.

  I was provided with the same argument from an Over zealous brother, when I was about to leave the cult

  My reasoning for this is, a normal person works for 8 hours, sleeps for 8 hours and the rest 8 hours is spent according to his will and pleasures. He can pursue a healthy passion or hobby, or spend time with his loved ones, or just relax during this 8 hour /day

  But Jws are brain washed to work for the WT,for the last 8 hour, along with contributing their hard earned money.

  1/3rd of their life wasted for just fictious stories and needless rules. Is this life worth, where there is only one life and in a short while we become non-existent…….. for eternity ?
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  JWFacts is incorrect about "Holy Spirit". Do YOU know about the 40 or so years the WT taught there was NO holy spirit?

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  i did my own extensive research as i was getting out, and by exploring actual changes and mentions of core doctrine, i learned how it came about that the gb teach that only they know the truth and only they get holy spirit.

  i was checking if jwfacts had it, and although they mention many older articles, it seems they didn't realize they taught there was no holy spirit.

  this was a real big eye opener for me, so thought i'd share it, and curious if any of you knew about this yourselves????.

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  EverApostate

  Because when Jesus was with his apostles they didn't have it, but when Jesus left, he told them he would send the teacher, the holy spirit. So since Jesus is back, there is no holy spirit anymore

  Thats a Valid point

  However the whole argument of this is Just hypothetical, similar to :

  Santa clause brings Christmas cheer in the month of December. After Christmas, Santa leaves his spirit for the people, so that they can cheer up, all until next december.