EverApostate

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  Interesting conversation with JW friend

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

  i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

  and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

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  waton .

  Yeah, got your point. Even travelling at the speed of light it would have been several weeks/months/years to get the ransom and benefits approved from Heaven - to and fro - and hence all the resurrected died due to this delay
  
  
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  Interesting conversation with JW friend

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

  i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

  and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

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  The resurrected saints as per Matthew 27:51-53 were post ransom beneficiaries and all should be alive today.Pr JWs cannot dodge them as pre - ransom
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  Who goes to heaven?

  by theplains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello,i found this on the jw site.https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/go-to-heaven/it says:"jesus said: "no man has ascended into heaven.

  (john 3:13) he thus showedthat good people who died before him, such as abraham, moses, job, and david,did not go to heaven.

  (acts 2:29, 34).

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  Trying hard to research and determine which Religion's heaven is the best and planning ahead for my spot.
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  Why should WE be the bloodguilty ones??

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it struck me just how odd and weird it is that jws are told that if they do not preach, they are "bloodguilty" for failing to warn people of the upcoming destruction at armageddon.. hang on a minute now, hang on!.

  why should a mere human be made to feel "bloodguilty" and "responsible" for "failing to warn someone" of gods wrath??.

  these average people are not the ones who are about to unleash a genocidal massacre on 99% of humanity (including babies born to non-witnesses).

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  Why cant the myriads of angels go and preach / convert and save people ? People would believe without any doubts. Wouldn't they ?
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  Watchtower Study Today from August 2017 issue " Wait Patiently"

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  theme scripture , james 5 v 8 abbreviated to " you too, exercise patience".

  (i guess we know what to expect now) .

  " how long?

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  Good Point sir82.

  I would always try to reason out with a JWs with this , but not with the statistical figure, which I have now.
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  Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

  to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

  david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

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  Generation for JWs

  The supposed Jesus or whoever assured all these things, in Mark 13 and Mathew was highly deluded. Also, if a leader promises to a crowd that whatever he foretells will be fulfilled in this generation means, the generation of the people standing before him. As simple as that. Any other interpretation is nonsense.
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  Do they take the GB seriously?

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so this is an honest question that i have been thinking about for some time.. do regular jehovahś witnesses in other countries (other than the usa) take the governing body in new york seriously?.

  i mean, i cant help but wonder about the publishers in japan, or south africa, or mexico, or new zealand, or even the uk, or spain, or italy...... or russia?.

  not you and i (we know what you think of them), but the regular jwś...... do they take these american buffoons seriously?

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  I was told that a GB guy visited the Bethel Inauguration in Bangalore, India. After his speech , the entire audience stood in a line for a handshake with him. I bet many would have thought that a mere physical contact with such a holy person was a great privilege.

  This is the case in developing countries.
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  Parents who try to make you feel guilty.

  by NJ501 in

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  2. experiences

  when parents say all the things we've done for you and your not doing anything for us in return like going to meetings, witnessing, answering up etc... how do you respond to parents?.

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  OneEyedJoe has very good points

  Reassure your parents that your love for them would remain as ever.

  Make them realize that serving an Organization doesn't mean that you are faithful to your parents. It takes time but would work. My Experience.
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  JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys.

  sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

  just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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  Do you 100% believe everything written in the Bible and 100% believe what the WT teaches you ?
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  JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys.

  sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

  just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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  1. When you tell people to examine their religions, have you honestly examined your own religion ?
  2. Organ Transplants were banned by Watchtower, relating it to Cannibalism. Why did the WT revoke it ? What reasons were given ? How many died before that ?
  3. Can you explain why your religions permits certain fractions of blood while banning others. Biblical reasons ? How does the human body treat consumed blood and transfused blood ?
  4. Are you aware of all the failed Doomsday predictions of WT ?
  5. Story behind Beth Sarim ?
  6. Do you know WT had been a member of the UNO ?
  7. Can you explain the Overlapping generations, precisely ? How many times this was revised ?
  8. If your religion excuses itself with "New Light" theory, can the same excuse be applied for the wrongness of Christendom ?
  9. You allow your own members and children to die refusing blood transfusion. Life doesn't matter here. But celebrating birthday is a great SIN.