There was agricultural civilization in interglacial period in Europe which was destroyed by cooling temperature of the northern hemisphere after 15000 BC. This civilization of hunters and gatherers left countless traces in Central Europe with various clay statues known as venuses (Venus of Wilensdorf , Dolni Vestonice, Landek) for their body shapes. These people lived 28000-18000 BC but disappeared in the last glacier period which lasted for another 7000 years. The glacial and interglacial period is well documented and highly visible in European and Northern American landscapes. Flora, fauna, and entire eco-climate had changed irreversibly.
Posts by kaik
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58Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy
by cappytan inhow long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?
what is the oldest settlement in south america?
how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.
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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy
by cappytan inhow long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?
what is the oldest settlement in south america?
how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.
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kaik
There is no whatsoever scientific proof on global flood in recent geological times. Hydroplate theory is a pseudoscientific concept easily rebuffed by earth science peer review material.
For example there is no discontinuity of forests in the northern hemisphere since the last ice age. Wood is well preserved to analyze all the tree rings as far as back as 8000 BC. We can even trace two major volcanic eruptions in the Bronze age (Thera and Hekkla) which happened around the so called Global Flood. These two major eruptions had left deep marks upon the atmosphere and on climate, such as decrease of temperature for several decades that science can even pinpoint them with accuracy of several years in Europe, Middle East, and Asia. There are so many issues with the global Flood in 2200BC that even mainstream churches (Catholic, European Protestants, and Orthodox) accepted it as a myth. The exceptions are fundamentalist evangelical churches having grassroots support in USA.
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Well, I asked a question and his answer blew me away
by Lost his mind infirst time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.
blew my mind.
i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.
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Lost his mind... sorry for your spouse problem and I would like to welcome you on the board. It is hard to deal with JWs and they are irrational. Sometimes the divorce is the way out before the cult destroys both. However, have you tried to have one on one bible study without even touching anything published by WT? One thing is that JWs do not know much bible and their doctrines are irrational and contradicting. This could help him to see the fallacy of their reasoning.
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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children
by InjusticeSystem infound these gems in this edition:.
- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.
there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.
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WT cannot throw away 1914 nonsense. They will have to slowly dilute the meaning of the year and pushed into distant memory before they will remove it from their theology and totally get rid of it. It will be long process, but it seams that it started already in the mid 1990's with overlapping generations and they will eventually deny that they ever claim it as the start of the heavenly kingdom. WT still claimed in early 1920's that the end of the time started in 1799 in Napoleon's invasion of Rome. -
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my intro to the JW world
by rebelfighter insomeone suggested that i should introduce myself and how i got here.
this has been a crash course in the jw world.
i got an email that said "good bye, have a nice life".
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of course bellasmile I know what cult is, I grew up in it, and I do not have whatsoever defend it. Do you? Got idea on anything or you just babble around? Never mind, you just babble around. Yes you bellawithsoursmile. -
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my intro to the JW world
by rebelfighter insomeone suggested that i should introduce myself and how i got here.
this has been a crash course in the jw world.
i got an email that said "good bye, have a nice life".
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kaik
As LisaRose had said, many JWs had double persona, and many would not mind to abuse Bible, WT regulation, or even human laws, as long it will provide them with new souls in their fishing net. Deceit is acceptable in WT cult as long secure them extra literature and study hours for their report cards. -
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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"
by Alive! ini've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.
really?
and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..
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kaik
Fisherman, you worthless dub, I glad that you confirmed that I can post whatever, and plus bonus from you is that I can believe whatever I want. However, I don't need your permission.
Now as outlaw had posted go sit in the corner, dumbass!
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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"
by Alive! ini've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.
really?
and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..
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Fisherman, I am glad that I don't need permission from worthless dub like you to post. -
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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"
by Alive! ini've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.
really?
and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..
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kaik
Fisherman, baptism is pagan origin and has nothing to do with mikvah. Any rabbi will tell you that. Rituals in mikvah have not association of baptism. Jews would be according to your logic baptized multiple times through their life. Ritual sumbersion existed also in ancient Greece. Act that St. John performed in baptism can be associated with river worship cult popular in Middle East. Good book on this topic is 'River of God, The: A New History of Christian Origins' by Gregory J. Riley. There other books going back to early 19th century, and even earlier. This NOT a new finding, but it was known among general public for at least 150 years.
A troll with sn SimonSays posted nonsense on devil with a Hisadic Jew puppeteer, associated five elements from Greek's system of beliefs on elements of the universe that became in 16th century a symbol of Satanism; and you do not see nothing wrong with it. I do. I see it as antisemitic where this creature associates Jews with Satan worshiping. I find it utterly insulting and disgusting. Your denial will not change a bit. He deliberately choose Jewish character to associate with Satan.
And please spear me of your BS with this "History shows that JWS have never harmed Jews, the reverse is not true." JWS are antisemitic and I have encountered it through entire life from JWs circles, from field service, KH, and from this website by others. If you have a bit of decency left in you would not defend indefensible.
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Hello, just introducing myself
by Miss Behaving ini've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.
here's my story if you're interested:.
my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.
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kaik
Miss Behaving, welcome to the board. You are starting fine, you are in the college, and your sacrifices will pay off. You are now in healing process from harmful religious cult that had deceived many. Again welcome and thanks for sharing your life story.