hi my name is graham (but i much prefer to be called grags), i'm a 38 year old married man from the uk and have been studying with the witnesses for about 3 months.
i do a study every saturday and love every minute.
in john 6: 16-24 jesus's disciples get onto a boat without jesus and set off.
No worries, apology accepted.
What I remember from WT world there were indeed two stories of Jesus on boat during the storm. This is not unique to JW, but to mainstream Christian religions for centuries. The moral story from both events is different and have different outcome (Jesus calms the storm, while at the other Jesus walks on water and lets the storm proceed).
hi my name is graham (but i much prefer to be called grags), i'm a 38 year old married man from the uk and have been studying with the witnesses for about 3 months.
i do a study every saturday and love every minute.
in john 6: 16-24 jesus's disciples get onto a boat without jesus and set off.
Grags, welcome to the JWN. However, this is a site primary for ex-JW community and people who are somewhat connected to Jehovah Witnesses either through family,friends, and other association.
I really am not interested in anyone's negativity when it comes to our creator.
This pretty much sum up, why I should bother to explain two different stories depicting Jesus on boat in storm, something that was already explained by Catholic Church 450 years ago.
it was the week when circuit overseer comes and my relatives wanted to offer the food.
i had got my school friend, a muslim girl, going into the meetings and she actually progressed and went to the field service, but never got baptized and one day she just disappeared.well anyway, this overseer comes for the free lunch and then when we are sitting in the table with his wife and my relatives, the muslim girl comes as the subject.
overseer throws out this absurd asshole joke that because their family doesn't like witnesses his father will come with a truck and drives it through the kingdom hall wall and then it explodes.
Around 1990 we had district overseer visiting our KH. It was turbulent era, communist regime just felt apart, and people started enjoying a breath of freedom. So, I go with this dude into field service, just two of as (yes big privilege of having two cousins as an elder), and he started to mumble like everything shows the last days. He told me when he reads a Revelation, he reads today's newspaper. He tried that wording on this field service through very well-to-do neighborhood. It was a disaster. He could not comprehend, that overall atmosphere people was festive and everyone was happy to be free. It was exactly opposite. Stores finally were getting goods, business opened, JWs were legalized, and someone come to stranger about prosecution and food shortage.
back in 1991, a young brother maybe 18 years old living next to my place committed suicide.
his father expected him to be very zealous just like he was, but the son never wanted to be like that.
he was always controlled by his father.
In my KH in CZ we had elderly woman. She was good friend of my mom, usually sitting next to her. We also spent time at assembly in Prague-Strahov in 1991. She had first suicide attempt by stepping in front of local single street train car, which catapulted her off the side, horrible crippling her. Couple months later, she destroyed all her personal items, cut her cloths, and killed her self at home.
I know a case when entire family drove south of Prague to the river, put rubber hose through window into the exhaust pipe and killed themselves. Man, woman, and two of their children. Several year later, different family in different KH did the same. Both cases were covered by national media.
"have you given up on organized religion?
in many countries the number of people who describe themselves as not religious is growinga trend that suggests an uncertain future for institutional religion.
some of those lands are shown here.
1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
There is no denying for many of as ex-JW that there were some good points which I kept even after WT like smoking. I never smoke once cigarette in my life. I was not even trying after WT. If WT were channel of God's communication, they would have non-smoking policy since 1874, but this came 100 years later!
1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
In your case, you are not enjoying your lives even after coming out of JWs as you are still worrying about what JWs are doing and attacking them relentlessly..
Funny and entertaining. JW have according census in my native country the lowest income from all registered religious groups, highest poverty rate (even gypsies are ahead of JW), and lowest educational achievement. No other socio-demographic group in the country is on the bottom as Jehovah Witnesses.
The sweetest revenge for any ex-JW is successful, happy, and fulfilling life after KH and not slaving for publishing house stuck in 19th century mindset.
this is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.
it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.
if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.
There is a huge truth for people not divorce if they want to build a wealth. The only winner in the divorce is gold digger, but common divorce, division of equity, layers, moving, etc, it its grenade on your finances. Two people manage better expenses, utilities, housing, and tax deduction.
ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.
apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".
but still wtf?
this is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.
it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.
if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.
